For threads like this I believe we should add a :wat:
emoji.
You must be new round here.
Anyway, anyone round here fancy a little light licence change?
!
This is the reaction Iāve wanted most often when conversations in this forum start to go off the rails. Iām not sure if it would actually help though.
Maybe the wrong thread, but I do have to ask ā¦
Out of our available emoji reactions, which one suggests āSorry, but I have no idea what youāre talking about?ā?
I always thought is just ābad postā - Youāre wrong & I donāt agree with you;
= shocked or surprised;
means that youāve said something really bad!;
while is much like in that I donāt really like what youāve said.
Is that a fair translation?
As someone who isnāt new around here, I am surprised that people are still taking this modest proposal seriously.
As someone who isnāt new around here, I am surprised that people are still taking this modest proposal seriously.
It is because there was nobody around to explain us blockheads how this proposal is to be understood ā¦
Out of our available emoji reactions, which one suggests āSorry, but I have no idea what youāre talking about?ā?
I donāt think we have one, and other than a question mark emoji I canāt think of a suitable emoji right away.
I always thought is just ābad postā - Youāre wrong & I donāt agree with you;
= shocked or surprised;
means that youāve said something really bad!;
while is much like in that I donāt really like what youāve said.Is that a fair translation?
Thatās also my interpretation.
No suffix emoji, but in such cases being on W10, I use the Windows+dot combo to get a broad selection to plant in the text, type the emotion in the question box and a selection is offered,
popcorn inclusive, anything with pop.
i.e. I donāt care if there or not and real quick :O)))
@ZeLonewolf Z, was in our local Discount / $2 store yesterday, & spotted something I thought youād appreciate!
Phone included for scale - theyāre big!
This matter clearly needs to be escalated to the OSMF board !!!
PS: I canāt help chuckling at the poetic justice of all of this.
In any case I believe what we clearly need in this discussion is some clarity about what is even being asked for, so āIā've created this application form that should allow for a more complete evaluation of @ZeLonewolfās request and future ones and a more structured discussion.
OpenStreetMap Community Forums - New Reaction Emoji Application Form
Personal Information:
- Full Name:
- Username/Handle:
- Email Address:
- Forum Profile Link (if applicable):
- OpenStreetMap Contributor ID (if available):
Proposal Details:
- Proposed Emoji Description:
- Explain the significance of the proposed emoji for the OpenStreetMap community forums:
- How will this emoji enhance communication within the community forums?
- Have you discussed this proposal with other forum members? If yes, provide feedback received:
- How frequently do you anticipate this emoji will be used in forum discussions?
Emoji Design:
- Provide a sketch or description of the proposed emoji design:
- Have you obtained permission to use any copyrighted material in the proposed design? If yes, please provide details:
- Is the proposed emoji design inclusive and culturally sensitive?
Technical Specifications:
- Preferred File Format (e.g., PNG, SVG):
- Recommended Size (in pixels):
- Color Palette:
- Accessibility Considerations (e.g., contrast ratio, readability):
Community Impact:
- How do you foresee the community reacting to the introduction of this emoji?
- Will the proposed emoji promote positive interactions and inclusivity within the forums?
- Potential challenges in implementing the proposed emoji and how you plan to address them:
Usage Guidelines:
- Proposed Usage Guidelines for the emoji:
- Restrictions on the usage of the emoji:
- Will the emoji be subject to periodic review and potential removal? If yes, specify the review process:
Feedback and Evaluation:
- How will you gather feedback on the usage of the emoji once implemented?
- Metrics to evaluate the effectiveness of the emoji in fostering community engagement:
- Will there be mechanisms in place to address misuse or abuse of the emoji?
Legal and Copyright:
- Do you assert ownership of the proposed emoji design? If yes, are you granting the community the right to use it freely?
- Indemnification: Agree to indemnify and hold harmless OpenStreetMap and its affiliates from any claims arising from the use of the proposed emoji.
Additional Information:
- Any additional information relevant to your proposal:
Declaration:
I, [Applicantās Full Name], hereby declare that the information provided in this application form is true and accurate to the best of my knowledge. I understand that any false statements may result in the rejection of my proposal.
Signature:
[Applicantās Signature]
[Date]
[Submit Button]
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Would not budge for a nanometer as then the OFLHMB will be on the next application form. A minimalist set of emojiās is fine and else, Iāve already demonstrated how with a flick of the wrist any from systems build-in Windows can do a wide scala. Other systems no doubt have similar.
Color Palette:
OSM uses British English spelling
- Full Name:
- Username/Handle:
- Email Address:
Whatās the retention policy regarding this PPPII? If my application is rejected, will my request to be forgotten be met with sweetness or saltiness?
In any case I believe what we clearly need in this discussion is some clarity about what is even being asked for, so āIā've created this application form that should allow for a more complete evaluation of @ZeLonewolfās request and future ones and a more structured discussion.
Simonās request is completely appropriate, and I provide my responses below.
OpenStreetMap Community Forums - New Reaction Emoji Application Form
Personal Information:
- Full Name: Brian Sperlongano
- Username/Handle: ZeLonewolf
- Email Address: zelonewolf@gmail.com
- Forum Profile Link: https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/zelonewolf
- OpenStreetMap Contributor ID: 219297
Proposal Details:
- Proposed Emoji Description:
The emoji graphically represents a classic box or container of popcorn, depicted as overflowing with puffed, white popcorn kernels. The container is typically red and white striped, mimicking the traditional style seen in movie theaters and carnivals. The popcorn itself is shown in shades of white and yellow, indicating the popped kernels, with a slight buttery appearance to convey a sense of realism and appeal.
- Explain the significance of the proposed emoji for the OpenStreetMap community forums:
The emoji carries cultural and social significance, drawing from common uses of the emoji in broader internet and social media contexts to represent a snack associated with movie watching and entertainment in general. Also, there have been some batshit crazy threads lately and we really need this emoji to react to them.
- How will this emoji enhance communication within the community forums?
The emoji is useful in a community setting to express several concepts not currently provided for with the existing slate of emoji:
Entertainment Value - is often used to denote that someone finds a discussion or situation entertaining, akin to watching a movie or show. It could be used to indicate that a thread or comment is particularly engaging or amusing, without necessarily contributing directly to the conversation.
Observation without Participation - it can signal that a user is following a discussion with interest but doesnāt wish to participate directly. This can be particularly relevant in heated debates or controversial topics where users want to signify their interest without getting involved.
Anticipation - just as people eat while watching something unfold, using the popcorn emoji could indicate antiicipation of future developments in a discussion or situation within the community.
Community Culture - incorporating such an emoji into the forumās reaction options could contribute to a unique community culture, making interactions more informal and expressive. It could help lighten the mood in discussions and foster a sense of camaraderie among users.
- Have you discussed this proposal with other forum members? If yes, provide feedback received:
Yes. See discussion above as well as this and this forum thread demonstrating clear community support. The feedback has been overwhelmingly positive except for a few unnamed curmudgeons who hate fun.
- How frequently do you anticipate this emoji will be used in forum discussions?
The emoji has seen an explosion in popularity recently, es evidenced by a forum keyword search for . Some of these usages arenāt even from me.
Emoji Design:
- Provide a sketch or description of the proposed emoji design:
- Have you obtained permission to use any copyrighted material in the proposed design? If yes, please provide details:
The reaction is bundled with Discourse. If Discourseās provided emoji violate copyright, then we have a bigger problem on our handsā¦
- Is the proposed emoji design inclusive and culturally sensitive?
The emoji is broadly considered to be inclusive and culturally sensitive for several reasons:
Universal appeal: Popcorn is a snack enjoyed worldwide, across many cultures, especially in contexts related to entertainment such as movies and circuses. The emojiās depiction does not favor a specific cultural practice but instead references a global experience.
Natural Imagery: The design focuses on the snack itself, avoiding any imagery that could be tied to specific cultural, religious, or ethnic symbols that might exclude or offend certain groups.
Entertainment Symbol: Given its association with enjoyment and leisure activities, the popcorn emoji carries a positive connotation that is generally non-controversial and widely acceptable.
However, the concept of inclusivity and cultural sensitivity can be compex, as perceptions vary greatly among different cultures and individuals. While the design is largely seen as neutral and broadly representative, itās always possible that some aspects of emoji designs could be interpreted in unexpected ways by different communities. The key to the emojiās inclusivity lies in its simplicity and its focus on a universally recognized snack without embedding specific cultural references or stereotypes.
Technical Specifications:
This section of the application is omitted because, as noted above, this emoji is already built into the forum software.
Community Impact:
- How do you forsee the community reacting to the introduction of this emoji?
Its introduction will contribute to a lighter, more relaxed forum atmosphere. This might make discussions, especially on contentious topics, feel less intense and more open, attracting users who prefer a less confrontational online experience.
- Will the proposed emoji promote positive interactions and inclusivity within the forums?
The potential to promote positive interactions and inclusivity is largely dependent on how community members choose to use it.
By offering a playful and light-hearted way for users to express that they find a discussion interesting or entertaining, the emoji can add a layer of nuance to online interactions. A shared understanding of when and how to use the emoji can foster a sense of belonging and camaraderie among community members. It can serve as an in-group signal for observing discussions with mutual interest.
- Potential challenges in implementing the proposed emoji and how you plan to address them:
The biggest challenge is in convincing the no-fun authorities that is a good idea. I have attempted to badger them into submission, but so far, the authorities have resisted.
Usage Guidelines:
- Proposed Usage Guidelines for the emoji:
If you were about to say something snarky in response to a post, consider instead.
- Restrictions on the usage of the emoji:
Be nice. If someone is posting about a famine in some part of the world, that would not be the time to use the emoji.
- Will the emoji be subject to periodic review and potential removal? If yes, specify the review process:
If was hard to add to the forums, likewise it should be hard to removeā¦
Feedback and Evaluation:
- How will you gather feedback on the usage of the emoji once implemented?
Count up all the . If itās growing, drama is increasing. If itās declining, the forums might be getting stoodgy and boring.
- Metrics to evaluate the effectiveness of the emoji in fostering community engagement:
A histogram chart listing reactions to @SimonPooleās posts over time seems like it would be a fine way to start the data collection process.
- Will there be mechanisms in place to address misuse or abuse of the emoji?
The current forum moderation team is doing a fine job of policing abuse, except for that one time that two of my posts got deleted and some people got mad about it.
Legal and Copyright:
- Do you assert ownership of the proposed emoji design? If yes, are you granting the community the right to use it freely?
Not applicable, as it is built into Discourse. However, I do own the OpenPopcornMap.org domain and will transfer ownership to the OSMF upon request in accordance with the OSMF trademark policy.
- Indemnification: Agree to indemnify and hold harmless OpenStreetMap and its affiliates from any claims arising from the use of the proposed emoji.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Additional Information:
- Any additional information relevant to your proposal:
Declaration:
I, Brian āpopcorn guyā Sperlongano, hereby declare that the information provided in this application form is true and accurate to the best of my knowledge. I understand that any false statements may result in the rejection of my proposal.
Signature:
February 23, 2024
Thank you @ZeLonewolf for completing the form, there is however still a further step needed, determining the members of the Reaction Emoji Evaluation Committee and the associated remit documents.
The NREAF ( New Reaction Emoji Application Form) will have to be re-submitted to the REEC once it has been constituted by the OSMF board. We expect that to happen in a foreseeable time frame once the OSMF budgetary process has completed.
Thank you for your understanding.
We expect that to happen in a foreseeable time frame
Thatās a shame, because right now there is a dumpster fire burning yet again about razed and dismantled railways, and the need for reactions has never been stronger.
Edit: and this one and this one and this one and this one and this one and this one and this one and this one and this one.
I was really hoping one of the āthis oneās was going to be recursive.