I have a similar question: what happens if a community has requested a subcat here and is going to be created after that deadline of 30th September? (created afterwards as in the discussion/voting occurs during that deadline.)
Will the content of that community be transfered at random place and then move into the subcat when it gets created?
Irrelevant question, because I’m still kinda confused on this merge process, will the old posts be on read-only mode or normally editable? (although I guess not editable since in Discourse there’s an edit period which will be past gone for those, except if it becomes wiki post I guess :p)
ja, ich weiß schon, eine Linkanpassung wäre sicher nicht schlecht, da es Forenweit ja einiges an Querverlinkungen zu disskutierten Themen gibt. Vielleicht hat das operation-Team dazu vielleicht auch schon eine Idee. Wir werden sehen, denn letztendlich ist die Konvertierung nur ein Lesen aus der einen Datenbank und ein Schreiben eine andere Datenbank. Mit einer Umsetztabelle Link-Alt nach Link-Neu hätte man den Vorher-Nachher-Zustand dokumentiert und ein Linkanpassungsbot kann die Liste dann abarbeiten. Letztendlich sind ja auch im Wiki Links ins Forum gesetzt.
Das die Konvertierung des DE-Bereiches mit z.Z. mindestens 329.358 Beiträgen, mit weitem Abstand an Nr. 1 liegend, sicher etwas dauern wird, ist mir Klar. Die hohe Beitragszahl zeigt aber die Dokumentationstiefe gerade im DE-Bereich und das darf meiner Ansicht nach nicht verloren gehen.
we’re reaching the end of the co-existence period of the old forum software hosted at forum.openstreetmap.org and this new platform, so it’s time for an update on the current status and what happens next.
First, thank you all for populating the subcategories in the #communities section. Activity on the new site has sharply increased over the past month and it’s great to have so many conversations going on!
Our plan now is to switch off write access to forum.openstreetmap.org, and to migrate existing content. This will involve roughly the following steps:
Make forum.openstreetmap.org read-only. This is the first step and will happen in the near future, so please do not rely on the continued ability to have discussions on the old platform even though it is still technically functional at the time we’re publishing this update.
Import the existing posts and threads into the temporary #migration category of this site using a script. (It is possible that this will involve a maintenance downtime of this platform. If this is the case, it will be communicated in advance.)
Redirect existing forum.openstreetmap.org/... URLs to the content’s new location.
Move imported content from the #migration category to its correct location, e.g. a local community category. This will be done manually by members of the @forums-governance team.
Now, originally this update was meant to include a precise timeline for these steps. Unfortunately, and contrary to our initial plans, development of the script required to execute the import is not yet complete. We will post additional information as soon as we get a new update or estimate from@Firefishy. We’re sorry for this transition not being as smooth as intended.
Nevertheless, we hope you’ll enjoy your discussions on this new site while we’re working on completing the migration process. Please continue using the #site-feedback category to point out issues with this new software platform and request additional categories as needed.
That looks fine to me as long as the migration after that will not take too long time, max two weeks?. People sometimes want to react on old topics and if you are longer on the new forum search for previous relevant discussions on the old forum becomes less and less logical. If it is not possible within say that two weeks I would delay the migration.
We might do that if it turns out to be an easy tweak to the script. But the development + testing work for that import is the slowest task in this whole process, so we would like to use any opportunities to make it a little simpler and faster.
Or to put it differently: If I can do a little extra work so that @Firefishy has a little less work, that seems like a good trade-off.
Is moving all topics of the of all sub-fora of the old forum from #migration to the correct new community really only a little extra work?
I would write a script that migrates all topic from one sub-forum of the old forum to one the sub-forums of this new forum. Then make a wrapper script that calls this script for each sub-forum of the old forum and indicate what is the place on the new forum.
We don’t even have an initial pass at the conversion yet and it will probably take several goes before we have something of suitable quality so I don’t think we are anywhere near ready to pull the trigger on this yet.
The announced date was always implausible and the complete lack of progress on the conversion has only shown that I was right in that conclusion.
This seems backwards. The first step should be to make the migration process work properly. In fact, the deadline for this has already been exceeded. The work that is overdue should be completed first, before you start with the next steps.
This is rather disappointing. Many people in e.g. the Dutch OSM community were happy with the old forum. We were okay with the transition to a new platform, because we were promised a smooth transition. Now you’re breaking that promise and giving us a messy transition instead.
Youah, the same with the old German forum … a lot of members still are unhappy with moving to the new platform and moreover with the repeated delay of the assured transmission.
Nevertheless no real damage is done so far. The old forum is still available for reference, we can still continue posting to the existing topics and we can additionally get used to the new forum. Nothing has got lost so far … and my own experience is that no transition works as smooth as everyone whishes it would, specially if most of the people working on the setup are volunteers as you and me.
What we should avoid by all means imho is to start dividing the community into “we” and “you”. We are all one community, even if we do our work in different regional groups or other parts of the OSM project.