I asked the same question about the abbroviation about the German Technisches Hilfswerk in this German thread. On the surface finding the name of an organisation seems very easy. But if you look closer, you find something like this:
“Bundesanstalt” means “federal agency”. Within a few centimeters of screen the offical website states 3 different versions of the name.
De-facto there seems to be consens on abbroviating the state name and spelling out the “State Emergency Service” in Australia. And since it is even documented in the wiki I could live with that, even when it is not my most favourite version.
Thanks fo doing so.
Like said, we are currently discussing some details about how to map different facilitys of the German THW. Once we have consensus on that I’d like to iniciate the same for the German THW.
Yeah so no different to here. So long as we have the operator:wikidata entry instead, then the exact format of the operator is less important. It would still be a good idea to standardise this in Germany like what we’ve tried to do here.
I would like to come back to one of myoriginal questions:
To find the relevant SES-Stations we can use this filter (overpass turbo):
emergency=ses_station
operator=something with "SES" or "State Emergency Service"
name=something with "SES" or "State Emergency Service"
located in Australia
This finds 202 objects using emergency=ses_station in Australia. Most of them are in NSW and Victoria. Can someone with actual knowlege about the SES’es confirm that all of these stations should be retagged with emergency=disaster_response?
I noticed that a lot of the SES-stations in NSW got edited by you @Warin61 in the last months. Do you have an overview about the situation? Do you know if the assumption that emergency=ses_station was used correctly in Australia in the past is sensible? Do we have a chance for a mass edit or do we need to manually check every object?
If that is the case a mass edit for emergency=ses_station → emergency=disaster_response would be possbile.
Is there a (high quality) list with all SES-stations that is available under a compatible license? That would make it very easy to update existing stations and add missing ones.
Is there anyone with conections/contacts to the SES’es who could try to get a list with all Locations of SES-Stations in Australia? Perfect would be a table including coordinates and addresses.
If we do not get such a list, we could maybe just mass edit all the usages of emergency=ses_station for the Australian SES’es to emergency=disaster_response because it would not make the data less accurate. We would not remove any missuse but also not introduce new missuse. I am not sure if this argumentation is good enough to propose a mass edit.
I proposed a mass edit to remove emergency=ses_station and apply emergency=disaster_response to objects of the Australian SES’es. Please leave an approving or opposing comment in the seperate thread:
Independently from my proposed mass edit to change emergency=ses_station to emergency=disaster_response I would like to move forward with a general clean up and addition of the Australian SES-facilitys. I found this database from the Digital Atlas of Australia:
It includes nearly 4500 emergency facilitys in Australia as seen as blue dots on this map:
I checked that. There is this email talk between Andrew, an OSM contributor and Elizabeth from Geoscience Australia, see here. It is a lot of text but if I get it right the improtant content is:
Andrew: We’re very interested in using Geoscience Australia’s CC BY 4.0 licensed data to
improve OpenStreetMap. In order to facilitate this, we need to confirm with you that
Geoscience Australia has no objections. Elizabeth: Geoscience Australia gives you permission to use the data under ODBL.
So we have permission to use Geoscience Australia’s data.
The Digital Atlas of Australia says it is . Does that mean we have permission to use any data from the Digital Atlas of Australia?
Where did you take that from? It says it is from December 2023 so pretty much up to date.