Resolution banning accounts related to beautifulplaces et al

In accordance with the OSMF policy on long-term blocks, the DWG has banned accounts related to beautifulplaces et al from editing OSM.

Best Regards,

Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM’s Data Working Group.

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Alles das in diesem Zusammenhang vor drei Jahren von @woodpeck geschrieben wurde liest sich als wäre es gestern geschrieben.

100 Konten, das ist wohl mehrheitsfähig in der Österreichischen Gemeinde. Und es werden immer noch mehr? Stefan Fadinger Freiheitskämpfer Oberösterreich | OpenStreetMap , HOGOUSO | OpenStreetMap machen sich stark für?

Every day is groundhog day…

As part of the austrian OSM community: thanks

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/15493
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/15494

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For info, I’ve edited the pages of the following wiki accounts to also link here:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Beautifulplaces
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Wikithemap
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Johann_Haag
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:OpenStreetMap_historian

At first glance, these all appear to be sockpuppets associated with this user. There may be more.

Edit: Yes, at least one more:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AIBot2304

That appears to be designed to resemble the existing account https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AIBot2034 , an account created (I presume) by someone in Austria trying to keep track of Beautifulplaces sockpuppets.

Also possibly:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:HellasX
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Adresshistoryorg

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@SomeoneElse The user page of Beautifulplaces reads like a long, neutral article but was completely written by Beautifulplaces and his sockpuppets.

I think that it is a wrong use of human resources to edit the article. Instead, I suggest to replace their content by an Ambox or a message about the ban.

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I can see where you are coming from there. I’ve just had a notification (because I previously edited the page) that “OpenStreetMap Wiki page User:Beautifulplaces has been changed by OpenStreetMap historian”.

If you think more action is needed I’d mention it to one of the regular wiki admins (someone other than me - I’m trying just to stick to just the one hat here).

Edit: Spoke too soon; I’ve just rolled back some edits here. Incidentally, that makes claims that some as yet unblocked accounts are controlled by the same user. If there’s evidence for that, please forward to the DWG so that we can look at it and if necessary block the OSM account.

Funny enough, i’m getting accused with “AiBot is your socketpuppet” - like meaning mine. I never used a socket puppet or a second account to edit anything and as i’m the bad one already there is really no need for that. I will just take the blame :person_shrugging: But whatever.

@Nakaner
I personally read it more like an attempt to be neutral beause he himswelf is trying to write the bad thing at first and them somehow try to explain why it isn’t actually that bad. It’s strange. And i think the two accounts that edit the page seem to be the same user.

And, on another note - is it possible to change your wiki-username? I’m pretty sure all these AIBot-changes were some time ago from an adresshistory-named account and not from aibot. Or am i missing something?

For info, I’ve edited the pages of the following wiki accounts to also link here:

At first glance, these all appear to be sockpuppets associated with this user. There may be more.

What was the purpose of that?

If DWG issues bans, that does not apply for the wiki. If there were a project-wide ban according to the Project-wide suspension and ban policy it would be different.

The user page of Beautifulplaces reads like a long, neutral article but was completely written by Beautifulplaces and his sockpuppets.

Please do not confuse a user page and a wiki article. If I write on my user page “Tigerfell is the best admin ever” it is my opinion. Stating that on Wiki:Administrators would imply some neutrality.

And, on another note - is it possible to change your wiki-username?

Please get in touch with one of the bureaucrats with general availability for user requests. Everybody else can not change their user name. Successful name changes are logged into the user rename log.

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Das nimmt ja eigenartige Ausmaße an. Der Liste mit den gesperrten Aliasnamen könnte ich noch einen hinzufügen, bei dem ich mit wetten traue, aber die Liste ist eh schon beeindruckend. Ein paar von den Namen dort sind mir schon untergekommen und da traue ich mich auch wetten. Mir scheint das plausibel, ich hätte den Fleiß nie aufgebracht das zu recherchieren. Mir hat gereicht die Phantasiemappings auszubügeln. Da sind viele Stunden hineingeflossen.

Andererseits finde ich es nicht richtig eine userpage zu bearbeiten ohne Einladung. Ein Vermerk (ambox?) allerhöchstens, aber den müsste man erst erfinden?

Let me ask another question in response: “What do you believe that the OpenStreetMap wiki is for?”

Personally, I think that it exists as subsidiary documentation for the OSM project - to document how people map things, to document how they have agreed to map things, and to provide information that will help them to map things in the future.

It shouldn’t exist just to drive traffic to an external blog, or an exernal twitter account, except where that might help with the main aim of the wiki to support the OSM project as described in the previous sentence.

I don’t believe that the “sockpuppet performance art” that is going on on the OSM wiki at the moment helps people to map things better. Mappers accessing the wiki deserve to know that they can trust the information that they find there. Much of what has been written by this individual under their various pseudonyms is at best untrue, and worse than that actually very misleading to people trying to use the OSM wiki (and other places that this person has contributed, like wikipedia) for information.

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Replying to my own post just to give the latest example (EN)**.

At this point it’s just straightforward trolling of the OSM community. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

** As mentioned above, I suspect that both the accounts used for editing this page since me are the same person.

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I concur. A simple look at what gets mapped and what is told – mappings are to a very high degree armchair, what is claimed as superior interpretation of aerials all too often fails scrutiny by OTG observations.

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