Proposal: creation of a working group for a more coherent integration of EuroVelo routes on OSM

Hi everyone! And thanks Stéphane for re-centering the discussion on how to go forward and make sure discussions continue in a sustainable way :slight_smile:

I would favor the idea of creating other, linked threads to continue discussing the main issues that have come up in the discussion so far. I would also be in favor of using a “EuroVelo” tag to group related topics, together with other tags commonly used in hiking routes threads such as “route” and “relation”. We can of course keep this thread for general, steering messages, and for new ideas.

From re-reading this thread, I see 3 main directions:

  • Tagging topic, including:
  1. How to organise long routes? Also looking at this proposal from Najita
  2. How to tag / whether to tag at all undeveloped EuroVelo routes (+ distinction between developed as a cycle route but not signed as EuroVelo, and not developed at all)
  3. Clarifying forward/backward issues (mostly cycle routes, but also applies to some hiking routes)
    NB: On the EuroVelo website, I don’t have the possibility currently to upload different tracks for “forward” and “backward” itineraries, so there will always be differences between EuroVelo.com and OSM.

Action point: Reaching conclusions within the thread, updating the wiki page accordingly, and starting to make changes to OSM relations where needed.

  • Ongoing Knooppuntnet work, including:
  1. Rendering all European countries on KPN (or was this solved by the background choosing?)
  2. Finishing the work of dividing all EuroVelo routes on KPN monitor into daily sections and uploading the reference GPX - allowing to clearly see inconsistencies and discrepancies between official GPX tracks and OSM (then it’s my job to solve the official GPX tracks issues together with our national partners)
  3. Sharing the work and finding people to do this work in more countries

Action points: Have all EuroVelo routes listed here with gpx references, or maybe per country like here, and act on the discrepancies.

  • Common license for EuroVelo routes, facilitating the use of official GPX tracks on OSM: this is on hold now, until an agreement is found between ECF and national coordinators. I’ll get back to the community when I have news.

So I’ll go ahead and create forking threads.Please let me know if you think I am missing something important!