I came across some invalid data in OSM, and while trying to investigate that came across some Irish relations https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14571417/history and https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14574362 . In both cases it looks like what is now ref:name hasn’t been properly converted from UTF-8 at import**.
I presume that in both cases ref:name should be the correct (Irish) name of the town?
Edit:
Also https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1093798199/history , https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1094051558/history
** in both cases the original adder of the data was someone working for Microsoft - insert your own “Micros~1” joke here.
EM_OSM
(EM_on_OSM)
March 28, 2026, 8:32pm
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Everyone has an Irish relation Andy, wouldn’t you know from Italia ‘90 yourself?
Maybe @risteárd_ó_ha would be well placed to look at this as he was doing some great work around Irish names in Gaeltacht areas.
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Indeed both these towns are in the Gaeltacht so ref:name should equal name:ga (which should also be name).
I’ve experienced issues with diacritics importing CSVs to Microsoft Excel, which didn’t exist with Google Sheets, Open Office, MAcOS Numbers etc.
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I’ve updated ref:name for both. I’ve left name as is in case there’s anything esoteric about “names being added to relations as well as nodes” - someone can always add it if necessary.
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