What should be done with shop=street_vendor wiki page?
For start: only street vendors that keep appearing in a given location are mappable.
Some would not qualify at all - typically because they have no own stable location. Street vendor is not mappable just because it was seen at given place one day, if it is not clear when they will be there again.
If some vendor travels across hundreds of places each day it is likely not mappable at each of them. Not sure if this specific business still exists, but some places have mobile shops - truck with various products ranging from baked bread and vegetables to chocolate and household chemicals stopping next to each house in a long valleys, each place having own schedule.
But some are definitely mappable.
My city has a famous sausage stand, stably appearing for over 30 years - see Przypadek stworzył legendę, czyli o kiełbaskach z niebieskiej nyski - Aktualności - LoveKraków.pl
As outside its opening hours it is an empty paved area, it should get some special tagging to warn mappers against too quick deleting it.
and now getting back to the most productive topic, OSM Wiki tagging discussions!
There is Tag:shop=street_vendor - OpenStreetMap Wiki page with an ongoing dispute how shop=street_vendor should be described.
There are basically two versions:
- one claiming that any “A shop without its own building” should be tagged as shop=street_vendor ( version by Rtfm )
- another that describes this tag as a terrible idea ( see version by Mateusz Konieczny )
which one is proper one to describe this tag? Maybe something else would be better?
Wiki editor Rtfm ( User:Rtfm - OpenStreetMap Wiki ) also active as ti-lo ( ti-lo | OpenStreetMap ) created wiki page Tag:shop=street_vendor
On it they claim that any shop without its own building should be marked as shop=street_vendor
I see a serious problem with this idea. It makes impossible to properly mark shop type - if street vendor selling seafood is mappable, then mapping it as shop=seafood street_vendor=yes is preferable to mapping it as shop=street_vendor seafood:sales=yes. Second tagging schema would mean that street vendor classification would reinvent entire shop=* namespace, without a good reason for doing this.
In addition, as far as I am aware, there is a very scarce support for this tagging scheme among people who are not Rtfm, as far as I know. How many people here think that inventing new tag for each shop= value if it is a street vendor makes sense?
There are few more minor problems with Rtfm version, for example:
(1) many shops without own building which are not street vendors at all (this one relatively easy to fix)
(2) this page failed to explain how various shop=* should be tagged if they are street vendors (if you would use shop=street_vendor)
(3) this age fails to describe as tagging that is at best controversial
Though fixing them would not fix fundamental issues.
Note: I have some conflict of interest here. I invented a competing tagging scheme ( Tag:street_vendor=yes - OpenStreetMap Wiki ) and was involved in multiple disputes with this user (see say ban request and their talk page )
What would be a preferable solution here?
- Use version by Rtfm, reccomending use of shop=street_vendor ( version by Rtfm )
- Describe shop=street_vendor as a bad idea and that normal shop values should be used also for shops without own building ( version by Mateusz Konieczny )
- Something else (please, post your recommendation or upvote one of comments made by someone else)
