Pure emojification is just cringe (using youthās terms ).
And all of us are already off-topic, so maybe we should stop and return to the OPās proposal, which if I recall correctly without having to re-read all the messages, it still isnāt supported by all the commenters here.
There are currently 39 reactions on the original post, and just two . Perhaps not all of the other reactions express support, but thatās still only a 5% disapproval rate.
the plot thickensā¦
Now 41, and just to avoid any semblance of doubt, hereās the current count:
15
8
5
5
4
3
1
By my interpretation, that means 29 people think the proposal is amazing, 8 people think Iām amazing, and 4 people hate the proposal.
Any misinterpretations of that count can be chalked up to cultural hegemony.
I donāt know if your answer was meant to be funny. It doesnāt seem very respectful to me. If someone rejects the suggestion, it doesnāt give you the right to write that the person āhatesā the suggestion.
Itās funny. Laugh.
Letās all remind ourselves of the admittedly absurd premise behind this whole debate.
Seriously though, I disagree with the idea that Meta dictates out way of communication patters. No one wants this forum to be like Facebook.
Please tell me you are meme-ing.
Indeed, the OSM community never gets heated with respect to absurd, minimal proposals
Anything beyond these reactions is seen as unusually complex and hard to comprehend.
like āI politely disagreeā is not comprehensive, you either have to be angry or sad in order to disagree?
If we need a reference point, I suggest using Facebook as a baseline.
all this talk about understanding different cultures, and then this is your conclusion?
To summarize, the majority believes that the emoji reaction expresses
- mutual respect,
- tolerance,
- encouragement,
- and aiding each other in adhering to these principles
as stated in our diversity statement:
āOur community is based on mutual respect, tolerance, and encouragement, and we are working to help each other live up to these principlesā Diversity Statement - OpenStreetMap Foundation
Great! This is a fine conclusion and one I wholeheartedly agree with. Iām glad we were able to come to an understanding.
Just one minor side noteā¦
As a Hungarian, youāre probably not aware of this, but the so-called āloveā reaction emoji is incredibly offensive in the United States. Heart disease is the number one killer of Americans. In fact, if youāre talking to an American online, either someone they love or they themselves have probably died of heart disease. Mostly this is due to overconsumption of salty snacks and too many visits to brand:wikidata=Q38076. So I thank you for raising awareness of cultural differences, and how important understanding these differences are to understanding each other.
This thread is approaching āLandcover proposal wiki discussion pageā level of hilariousness and saltyness.
@ZeLonewolf
I suggest to rename this topic to
āLetās talk about respect, tolerance, encouragement and different cultural background with regard to the use of emojis in OSMā
and when the discussion came to an end in a couple of years start another attempt ā¦
Why does every topic have to be turned into endless discussions that are widely out of the scope of the original topic? Canāt we just do what Minh suggested instead?
A good addition to this test would be usage statistics of the emojis, but Iām not sure if such feature exists within Discourse (more possibly for an addon to do that).
Also, I doubt there will be many people who will actually open topic to suggest to remove an emoji because they donāt like it/find it confusing, instead of just refrain from using it.
I would not put it past this community.
Yes, letās just try it out.
Iām confused that this thread about cultural differences is more than 50 posts long, but the obvious cultural issue with this hasnāt mentioned yet. Although it has led to serious misunderstandings in the past.
Quoting Wikipedia: āTraditions differ as to whether popcorn is consumed as a hearty snack food with salt (predominating in the United States) or as a sweet snack food with caramelized sugar (predominating in Germany).ā
Thatās why Iām strongly opposed to this proposal: The question, whether the emoji means salty or sweet popcorn has the potential to deeply divide the community and to become the next landuse/landcover or phone/contact:phone moment in our project.
Thatās why Iām strongly opposed to this proposal: The question, whether the emoji means salty or sweet popcorn has the potential to deeply divide the community and to become the next landuse/landcover or phone/contact:phone moment in our project.
Contrary to what the wiki assumes, this disagreement does not divide neatly along administrative boundaries. If youāre ever in my neck of the woods, let me know and Iāll take you out to a baseball game and buy you a box of Cracker Jack.
Quoting Wikipedia: āTraditions differ as to whether popcorn is consumed as a hearty snack food with salt (predominating in the United States) or as a sweet snack food with caramelized sugar (predominating in Germany).ā
Iām from Germany; both options are known here and usually specified. E.g. at the cinema.
Contrary to what the wiki assumes, this disagreement does not divide neatly along administrative boundaries. If youāre ever in my neck of the woods, let me know and Iāll take you out to a baseball game and buy you a box of Cracker Jack .
Considering this we would have to introduce a popcorn layer in OSM marking the inhabited areas with different colours for āsalty snackā, āsweet temptationā and āpopcorn free zoneā. No problem.
why are we still talking about this instead of mapping? Try it on and if it doesnāt fit, delete it
Good idea. In the mean time, we could reply to posts with a emoji. Then you can see if people want to use it, or not?