@ZeLonewolf
I suggest to rename this topic to
āLetās talk about respect, tolerance, encouragement and different cultural background with regard to the use of emojis in OSMā
and when the discussion came to an end in a couple of years start another 
attempt ā¦ 
Why does every topic have to be turned into endless discussions that are widely out of the scope of the original topic? Canāt we just do what Minh suggested instead?
A good addition to this test would be usage statistics of the emojis, but Iām not sure if such feature exists within Discourse (more possibly for an addon to do that).
Also, I doubt there will be many people who will actually open topic to suggest to remove an emoji because they donāt like it/find it confusing, instead of just refrain from using it.
I would not put it past this community.
Yes, letās just try it out.
Iām confused that this thread about cultural differences is more than 50 posts long, but the obvious cultural issue with this hasnāt mentioned yet. Although it has led to serious misunderstandings in the past.
Quoting Wikipedia: āTraditions differ as to whether popcorn is consumed as a hearty snack food with salt (predominating in the United States) or as a sweet snack food with caramelized sugar (predominating in Germany).ā
Thatās why Iām strongly opposed to this proposal: The question, whether the emoji means salty or sweet popcorn has the potential to deeply divide the community and to become the next landuse/landcover or phone/contact:phone moment in our project.
Contrary to what the wiki assumes, this disagreement does not divide neatly along administrative boundaries. If youāre ever in my neck of the woods, let me know and Iāll take you out to a baseball game and buy you a box of Cracker Jack.
Iām from Germany; both options are known here and usually specified. E.g. at the cinema.
Considering this we would have to introduce a popcorn layer in OSM marking the inhabited areas with different colours for āsalty snackā, āsweet temptationā and āpopcorn free zoneā. No problem.
Good idea. In the mean time, we could reply to posts with a emoji. Then you can see if people want to use it, or not?
I like this attitude.
I would have liked this āletās just try it outā attitude when it came to removing the minimum character length for posts here in Discourse. I had suggested it, but it was rejected.
It would have been easy to try it out, and adjust it if it didnāt work.
In the Julia Language forum at https://discourse.julialang.org , there is only one reaction, which is a 
emoji.
On the other hand, in the Discourse Community forum at https://meta.discourse.org,
there are 14 reactions, most of which are positive or neutral.
This is more in line with the principles of Nonviolent Communication.
Before trying this, it might be worth considering what other communities use and why.
Why does the company developing Discourse use those specific 14 emojis? What were the reasons behind their decision?
Are there any potential unintended consequences?"
We use in the OSM World Discord server. Weāve had exactly zero issues or incidents with the use of this emoji.
Here is a typical and recent discussion involving in the Discord server. Context is that I have made a few contentious mass edits in the past and people were probably expecting another spicy situation (which didnāt happen this time).
As I understand, Discord allows any emoji to be used as a reaction, not just a few pre-selected ones. If we choose to select 10-14 emojis, we should do so thoroughly and with careful consideration.
emoji seems high enough to warrant inclusion even if we limit ourselves to that number.We have 
and 
which are both negative. Since you reacted to the OP with ā¦
ā¦does that mean you were guilty of a violent communication? Should I discuss this with my attorney, therapist, health care provider, priest, rabbi, minister, law enforcement officer, teacher, mentor, or faith healer? Would you consider that a violent communication in the Hungarian forum where youāre a moderator?
Great idea!
Feel free to go ask them and stop wasting our time with research questions that you yourself donāt want to bother finding the answer to.
Feel free to go ask them and stop wasting our time with research questions that you yourself donāt want to bother finding the answer to.
The consequence will be people will start using the reaction.
In fact, people have been using the reaction throughout this thread in the body of messages and nothing bad has happened. Itās a nice relief valve since mapping is often contentious and thereās many disagreements on how to do things. If you can think of an unintended consequence, tell us, but otherwise stop wasting our time with questions you canāt be bothered to find the answers to.
From my side, I have never seen that emoji being used in any Greek channel (inside and outside of OSM). Only from other countries and mostly from USA. So, I would consider it more of a USA trend rather than an international one.
Actually, despite their insistence on sweet popcorn, it is the most used in the Germany forum, with the sole example of its use in the United States forum coming after this discussion started. Of course, if you search the OSM US Slack youāll find plenty of usages. Itās also widely used on Discord, which is a very international space (@Friendly_Ghostās example above is Dutch).
Being widely used in two of the several communities of OpenStreetMap isnāt a really strong argument to add the emoji in the reactions preset of this forum.
But I accept the fact that, as mentioned above, most people are for the addition (or to be precise for many of them, not against). If the @forums-governance agrees, the emoji could be added and later do an evaluation topic (or something less bureaucratic) to see if it should remain in the list or not, based on its acceptance.
