I’ve seen a number of comments recently from an account that hasn’t made any edits**, but seems to like commenting on changesets. Interactions such as here and here have the following common factors:
The comments add no value and either recycle what is available from changeset comments and tags, or misunderstand changeset comments and tags.
The language and grammar used is characteristic of “English as spoken by someone from e.g. eastern Europe, where definite articles are used less”
The comments tend to involve people who comment on changesets a lot, but “commenting on random changesets” would do that too.
It claims it’s human, but more persuasive than that is that I’d actually expect a bot to have better English grammar than this commenter, even if none of the comments add any value.
The changesets tags contain the locale=ru tag, but judging by Changeset: 73947310 | OpenStreetMap Russian is not his native language. Moreover, it doesn’t look like a translation from *GPT, because they connect words better together:)
In the nickname NinaNesterovaOSM hidden First and Last Name — Nina Nesterova (slavic female name). However, in Changeset: 73947310 | OpenStreetMap the user signed himself as Лёша Нестеров (Alex Nesterov). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
they also received changeset comments, so unless they reply to them with comprehensible answer that makes sense they should be also blocked for ignoring changeset comments
(yeah, assuming good faith makes sense - but someone starting from useless changeset comments rather than edits is unlikely to be a really newbie mapper)
I was hoping to understand what they were trying to do - hence me replying to the note comments earlier. I only mentioned it here when the note comments seemed to be going around in circles.
I suggest blocking this user. He responded to comments with poorly linked sentences and continued to corrupt data: Changeset: 163070098 | OpenStreetMap
@NinaNesterovaOSM can you please reply to some of the comments about your edits here?
Also, it’s clear on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/163067597 and others that communication isn’t really happening. What is your native language? I’m sure that there is someone else in OSM that speaks it; perhaps they could help?
(for the benefit of anyone not following the in the changeset comments)
The changeset linked above consisted essentially of me adding two new nodes - each of which was created with an image tag that shows the exact situation - an “Unsuitable for Motors” sign to the south, nothing to the east. Here’s the view from the northwest:
To ask “what is the source” in that situation is either (a) a complete misunderstanding of all communications so far or (b) somewhat disingenuous. I’m leaning towards the latter, especially given the latest reply to https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/163070098 - apparently @NinaNesterovaOSM speaks “russian, ukrainian, english, germanese, and more languages”. I wonder if we have any “Germanese” speakers who could assist?
@NinaNesterovaOSM Please stop messing about and tell us what your native language is so that we can help you. If you don’t, you’ll be prevented from adding things to OpenStreetMap. We** have had numerous complaints already in addition to the one above. DWG Ticket#2025022810000165 .
If you ignore this and make further nonsense comments or changes we will block you from OSM. However, we don’t want to do this - we’d much rather try and help you.
We’ve seen quite a lot of examples of people who think they are clever “pretending to be iD” via their self-written OSM client because they think it’ll fly under the radar. Here changeset tags include “resolved:outdated_tags:incomplete_tags=2”. Now that might be a bug in iD but experience suggests it’s probably not that - perhaps another example of @NinaNesterovaOSM not being entirely honest with us.
User keeps making odd-edits, such as adding layer=1 to highways without no reason (20 minutes ago) and adding weird comments to 5 years old changesets, such as Yep, but GET A LIFE LOSERS!!!!! (14 minutes ago). Meanwhile, he is adding love and popcorn emojis to posts in this thread without replying. Obvious troll is obvious, we lost too much time already with this user.
Please unblock permanently my account. Previously, you see a block ID 17342:
NinaNesterovaOSM was blocked by Taya_S for vandalism, poor quality edits and trolling comments.
According to the regulations, OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.Please do not violate that.
It did probe behavior of ours. It could be some vaguely or actually AI logic at work, too. AIs are notorious for making simplistic, silly-seeming mistakes. There is a good deal of AI flying around now, I’m just sayin’.
If human, “simplistic” isn’t wrong.
Something I have noticed for the better in our project especially in the last, say five years: we have gotten better at “that’s nasty human behavior, time to show it the door.” Good for us.
in the changeset comments)
