Orange sells mobile phone, landline and internet contracts and also mobile phones.
Here are Orange revenues in 2024:
France:
Europe:
Africa & Middle East:
Shouldn’t Orange be in NSI as shop=telecommunication, since telecommunication services are its core business?
Here are Orange revenues in 2024:
France:
- retail services (mobile, fixed, IT) - 11 303 mil. €
- equpment sales (mobile and fixed) - 1 419 mil. €
Europe:
- retail services - 5 089 mil. €
- equipment sales - 1 049 mil. €
Africa & Middle East:
- retail services - 6 936 mil. €
- equipment sales - 96 mil. €
can you explain these numbers? Isn’t France in Europe, and is France in Africa as well? How can Europe be less than France?
Overall revenue does not decide this at all.
You can have company that has 99% of profits from selling fridges and 1% from selling honey.
It does not mean that their shops selling honey should be shop=appliance - instead their shops selling fridges should be marked as selling fridges and their shops selling honey should be marked as selling honey
In Orange case what matters is what is available in their POIs.
Are they specifically about mobile phones or is it minority of what is sold there?
Maybe they have both types of shops?
Maybe it depends on area?
I’m referring to the brand as a whole.
Starbucks also sells sandwiches, pastries, etc. but it’s still an amenity=cafe and not shop=fast_food or shop=pastry.
shop=mobile_phone means that the company only sells mobile phones or mobile contracts. But that is not true. In every Orange shop it is also possible to buy other services such as TV, landline or fixed broadband contracts.
Revenues in Europe are without France according its 2024 financial report.
Orange is a French company, hence the high revenues in France and separate reporting.
Because companies don’t book numbers according to OSM polygons 
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They’ll book revenue by division, and those divisions will be what makes sense to that company. Orange is a French company, so a division that handled “those bits of Europe that are not in France” might well make sense for them.
generally I do not believe revenue is a good measure for what we are about (relevance this is?), imagine a company having a bad year and negative revenue, we would have to remove them 
I agree they should be in the NSI, regardless of precise numbers, being a well known company is sufficient
no, it refers to a specific shop: company may sell mainly drawbridges and spaceships, it does not matter at all if given shop sells baked bread - and therefore is shop=bakery
The question is what is primary service/product sold there
the tag means they are principally selling mobile phones (and possibly sim cards, contracts, earphones, etc.), it means people see the shop as a mobile phone shop, it doesn’t say they might not sell other things as well.
A post office that also sells envelopes doesn’t become a stationery shop, one that also sells flowers doesn’t become a florist.
If you are interested in such details you could add additional tags, similar to how sells:icecream works
Are you sure? Have you been to every Orange shop in every country in the world in which they operate?
The serious point here is that international brands often have very different offerings in different markets. A company might well be shop=telecommunication in one place but shop=mobile_phone in another. That would probably need a breakdown of the NSI entry (which is currently wrong, as it includes the UK) into different geographical parts.
Even then, as @Mateusz_Konieczny says above, there may be different sorts of shops under one brand, even in the same town.
This is true but would be very unusual in the given case. The core business of Orange is the full telecommunication range and those companies (like the Telekom in Germany) usually sell the whole bundle of their products in their stores.
And frankly spoken they would be stupid to reject a potential customer asking for a broadband contract in one of their stores with the argument, they are only selling mobile phones. I sincerely can’t believe they would.
From that point of view I’d say shop=telecommunication would be more appropriate than shop=mobile_phone.
And frankly spoken they would be stupid to reject a potential customer asking for a broadband contract in one of their stores with the argument, they are only selling mobile phones. I sincerely can’t believe they would.
it depends on them selling broadband access in the country, I guess.