Moving to the new forum for proposals and voting

[Discostu36 (Michael Brandtner)]

You understand correctly. Well, I don’t “want” it, it’s just an idea.

[Peter_Elderson]

If I reply or follow-up to a post having a #[discourse-tag], does the reply or follow-up inherit the #discourse-tag?

[nukeador (Rubén Martín)]

The tags apply to the whole topic.

[rmikke (Ryszard Mikke)]

What would be the advantage of separating tagging proposals from other proposals with different tag? Wouldn’t one tag (like wiki-proposal) be more convenient? And for more finegrained separation, we could add a second tag. We can have more than one tag for a topic, can’t we?

[Cartographer10]

Yes we can and that is what the proposal currently says. I also had a discussion on the talk page about that. For both rfc and vote announcements we can use the tag wiki-proposal. Additionally I can ad rfc and vote to the respective announcement templates.

[RicoElectrico]

@Mxdanger

The wiki is not a barrier of entry,

I would also say that as I find it reasonably easy, but it seems that regular users often have trouble with it. On top of that, the anti-spam filter doesn’t allow registration from a whole lot of IP ranges (like in Poland - T-Mobile). The latter is embarrassing.

[Casey_boy]

This needs to be treated as a transition rather than an immediate swap. My suggestion:

Stage 1:
Immediate (after a proposal, using current rules, for this process has been accepted)

1. Set up proposals sub-community
2. Keep mailing list as mandatory place to announce proposals, but add forum as additionally recommended in proposal process.

Stage 2:
After 3-6 months, and assuming the new sub-community is gaining traction.

1. Set proposal sub-community to automatically send notification email to tagging mailing list when new topic is posted in that forum (but not follow up replies though to avoid duplications). Edit template to clearly show the proposal has come from the forum (to allow people to find initial/main discussion).
2. Change proposal process rules to allow posting of proposals on forum only, but keep the mailing list as the required, default option. Since 2.1 is in place, posting on the forum now counts as posting on mailing list.

Stage 3:
After 6-12 months, and assuming the new sub-community has gaining significant traction amongst community and any significant issues are resolved.

1. Set the forum as the required place for posting proposal announcements. Still allow discussions on tagging mailing list but proposals must be announce in the forum.

[nukeador (Rubén Martín)]

Just FYI, there is an open question about having a tagging-only space in these forums where potentially this proposal (and others) could be tested. Currently it would need a group of people willing to moderate the category and make the request:

Is there a need for a tagging-only space?

From my observations, a good amount of new topics under #general are about #tagging, it’s even more in the #help-and-support one. The difference is discussions about tagging and support and help request about it. Is there already a need for “Tagging” to have it’s own (sub)category? What should and shouldn’t it include? Cheers.

[Cartographer10]

Do you think wiki (tag) proposals can go under this tagging category? If we use a distinct tag for wiki proposals only, people can follow that without us having the request a new sub community for proposals/votes

[nukeador (Rubén Martín)]

That’s up to the community to decide, I personally don’t have a strong opinion.

In general it’s always recommended to start with tags and then create subcategories if traffic is high.

[Cartographer10]

@nukeador

In general it’s always recommended to start with tags and then create subcategories if traffic is high.

Good one. Didn’t think of it this way