Mapbox organized editing, Missing Roads in Switzerland

Communities Switzerland
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Hello, OSM community of Switzerland!

Our team has been mapping missing roads since May 2024, as described here: Mapbox Organized Editing, Missing Roads

This project has been a success, and we are expanding the effort to European countries, including Switzerland. We’re sharing notice here to ensure that OSM community of Switzerland has adequate notice, consistent with the Organised Editing Guidelines.

  1. Link to the Github ticket.
  2. List of data team members.
  3. Link to our Wiki page.

This post is the location we will monitor for suggestions, questions, and concerns. Thanks!

You can also reach out to the project coordinator directly at valeryia.yukovich@mapbox.com (Valeria) and osm-edit-escalations@mapbox.com or post a comment in a changeset.

Auf Deutsch:

Hallo, OSM-Gemeinschaft der Schweiz!

Unser Team kartiert seit Mai 2024 fehlende Straßen, wie hier beschrieben: Mapbox Organized Editing, Missing Roads

Dieses Projekt war ein Erfolg, und wir erweitern die Bemühungen auf europäische Länder, einschließlich Schweiz. Wir teilen die Mitteilung hier, um sicherzustellen, dass die OSM-Gemeinschaft in Schweiz angemessen informiert wird, in Übereinstimmung mit den Richtlinien für Organized Editing.

  1. Link zum Github-Ticket.
  2. Liste der Mitglieder des Datenteams.
  3. Link zu unserer Wiki-Seite.

Dieser Beitrag ist der Ort, den wir für Vorschläge, Fragen und Bedenken überwachen werden. Vielen Dank!

Sie können sich auch direkt an den Projektkoordinator unter valeryia.yukovich@mapbox.com (Valeria) und osm-edit-escalations@mapbox.com wenden oder einen Kommentar in einem Changeset hinterlassen.

En français :

Bonjour, communauté OSM de Suisse !

Notre équipe cartographie les routes manquantes depuis mai 2024, comme décrit ici : Mapbox Organized Editing, Missing Roads

Ce projet a été un succès, et nous étendons l’effort aux pays européens, y compris la Suisse. Nous partageons l’avis ici pour s’assurer que la communauté OSM de Suisse est informée de manière adéquate, en accord avec les lignes directrices de l’édition organisée.

  1. Lien vers le [ticket Github] (Project Missing Roads · Issue #427 · mapbox/mapping · GitHub).
  2. Liste des membres de l’équipe chargée des données.
  3. Lien vers notre page Wiki.

Ce message est l’endroit que nous surveillerons pour les suggestions, les questions et les préoccupations. Merci beaucoup !

Vous pouvez également contacter le coordinateur du projet directement à valeryia.yukovich@mapbox.com (Valeria) et osm-edit-escalations@mapbox.com ou poster un commentaire dans un jeu de modifications.

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Hi Valeria

Could you explain how you detect “missing” roads and give some samples (we are aware that quite a few service roads in industrial complexes are unmapped, and some driveways).

BTW I hope you are aware of OSM - GWR Street and Place Names Comparision

Simon

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Hello, Simon! Thank you for your interest towards our mapping activity.

Our main goal is to enrich road coverage where possible to improve the experience of our users in Europe. We have our own mechanisms for detecting missing roads. They are run by internal tools built by Mapbox developers on the basis of anonymized GPS traces. The traces are processed and compared to OSM data and our internal data. As a result, we receive some predictions of the places with potentially missing roads. All of them are going through manual validation of our mappers and only in case a missing road can be confirmed by sources eligible for mapping on OSM, we will add it on the map.

The scope of work in Switzerland will depend on what these mechanisms bring us. If there is not much to edit, we will not make any excessive edits for sure. Besides that, we are not going to change other users’ edits without compelling reasons and preceding communication with the community.

Could you please clarify what kind of samples you exactly mean?

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Well a couple of examples of missing roads, coordinates would be enough.

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Thank you for the clarification! As we are making announcements prior to the beginning of our work in the location, the dataset in Switzerland will be created in approximately one week. As soon as the data is available, I will contact you with examples of missing roads detected by our mechanism.

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Hello, Simon! As per our agreement, I am providing some examples of missing roads detected by our mechanisms in Switzerland:

  1. OpenStreetMap (the data appears to be outdated based on a comparison of the available satellite imagery sources);
  2. OpenStreetMap (there is a minor/unclassified road missing according to the latest imagery);
  3. OpenStreetMap (a service road is missing, however, given its minor impact, we will assess the local approach to mapping service roads in Switzerland to determine the necessity of making such edits).

We hope this information will clarify the specifics of our mapping activity. If there are any questions or concerns regarding the cases mentioned above, we encourage open discussion and constructive feedback.

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Thanks!

There is actually major construction for a new train station there that is supposed to be completed by the end of 2025, see
Avry-Matran | CFF . I suspect that the situation will have already changed again since the imagery was taken and it would probably be best for somebody local to survey.

The other two examples seem unproblematic.

Simon

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Thank you for the valuable feedback and information regarding this case. We will follow your recommendations and refrain from making any modifications in this area as we do not possess evidence of ongoing construction. Therefore, we agree that the optimal approach in this case is undoubtedly to collaborate with users who have local knowledge of the situation.

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