Looking for the Pacific Ocean

[jidanni (Dan Jacobson)]

I asked Google to ask Apple to stop blocking Chrome on Linux,
https://issues.chromium.org/issues/416620769

[Matija_Nalis]

@jidanni

I asked Google to ask Apple to stop blocking Chrome on Linux,

Thanks; but I wouldn’t suggest holding your breath…

[SekeRob]

Gosh, now there goes 15 years back on memory lane and it’s foggy, it used to be possible to fake the identity of the webbrowser i.e. it being Chrome but telling the visited site it’s e.g. Safari.

[jidanni (Dan Jacobson)]

Improving user privacy and developer experience with User-Agent Client Hints...

[jidanni (Dan Jacobson)]

Finally!

We are at Cape Disappointment State Park, and all we want to know is the name of all that water we see.
https://maps.apple.com/frame?center=46.28%2C-124.09
achieves this without needing to zoom out.
(Seen on a Chromebook.)

[jidanni (Dan Jacobson)]

And if we don’t believe it, we can ask it, and it will tell us:

Unlike O*M.O*G.

[jidanni (Dan Jacobson)]

It turns out to be an idyllic ocean,
https://maps.apple.com/place?auid=3617963108949840202
Largest ocean too, it tells us.

[Spiekerooger]

So… time to close this thread?

[trigpoint (Philip Barnes)]

@jidanni

So what browser can I use on Linux to see their website?

Firefox, as a Linux user I wouldn’t touch Chrome with a 10ft barge pole

[jidanni (Dan Jacobson)]

@trigpoint

@jidanni

So what browser can I use on Linux to see their website?

Firefox…

But Looking for the Pacific Ocean - #59 by Matija_Nalis already tested that and it got the same error.

[jidanni (Dan Jacobson)]

@Spiekerooger

So… time to close this thread?

True, I finally found the Pacific Ocean. But it was only in Apple Maps.

[SomeoneElse (Andy Townsend)]

@jidanni

But it was only in Apple Maps.

So you weren’t able to find the time to follow my suggestion from a couple of weeks ago ?

Interestingly Apple Maps are using OSM data (among other sources). Whether that separate page that meets the requirements has been much discussed elsewhere.

(obviously I’m using Firefox’s “User-Agent Switcher” add-on to get around Apple’s ridiculous browser restrictions here)

[Matija_Nalis]

@SomeoneElse

(obviously I’m using Firefox’s “User-Agent Switcher” add-on to get around Apple’s ridiculous browser restrictions here)

Oh, I think I’ll somehow manage to live without Pacific Ocean on high zooms then.

I prefer not to engage in circumventing technical protection measures set up by party actively hostile towards my intent to access their website, and instead skip dealing with them altogether.

Seems like a sensible advice generally, and especially if one prefers to avoid being classified as a criminal by a country whose leadership lately seems to be quickly steering it in the direction which historically didn’t end well for people declared as the enemy of the state…

[pnorman (Paul Norman)]

@goedegazelle

I don’t think that the first statement is objective.

The majority of OSM data usage is likely from large companies like Facebook, Apple, Lyft, Uber, Amazon, etc. The standard layer is “only” viewed by hundreds of millions of people a month.

@goedegazelle

The second statement makes no sense

Speaking as a former OpenStreetMap Carto maintainer, the OSMF does not have the right to dictate how OpenStreetMap Carto is designed. Someone else using the OSMF’s tile servers doesn’t have a right to dictate how the tile servers are run or how the style used on them is designed.

[jidanni (Dan Jacobson)]

I was just thinking that a easy solution would be anything off the west coast of North America and South America one could label the specific ocean, I mean Pacific Ocean, I’m using voice input. Please excuse me.

Except, let’s say you’re up in the north part of the Gulf of California. Well labeling that the Pacific Ocean would be quite misleading. So I guess it’s back to the drawing board.

[SomeoneElse (Andy Townsend)]

I’ve just written this diary entry which directly addresses this issue.