Large scale change of traffic_sign to traffic_sign:id

For those following along, the wiki’s description of highway=stop came up in a discussion yesterday:

The tag highway=stop is used to map points at which vehicles are required to stop. This includes stop signs, stop lines and (potentially) other points where a physical stop is required by law.

In the infobox, it also said, “Used to mark stop signs.”

@yopaseopor pointed to these passages as proof that the tag represents the sign itself. However, the rest of the page goes on to detail exactly where a mapper would position the node. In reality, the only reason the page says “stop sign” is that English doesn’t have a convenient word for the-place-at-which-a-vehicle-comes-to-a-stop-in-order-to-obey-the-stop-sign-or-stop-line-if-no-other-vehicle-is-already-stopped-in-front-of-it.

We’ve come full circle back to the original point of contention at the top of this thread:

To prevent further confusion, I edited the highway=stop page to clarify that it doesn’t represent the sign itself. This edit changed the wording but not the substance of the page. After all, the rest of the page remains unchanged, including the diagrams. I do not believe this edit is unfair to your proposal. In fact, it helps this community better understand the status quo that your proposal would affect so that they can make a better informed vote. If the community can’t edit any page that an in-progress proposal links to, then we might as well lock the whole wiki.

Perhaps “pedantic” was too strong a word, but your RfC is a request for comments, so if you continue to insist that highway=stop has been intended for the literal sign all along, then my feedback to you is that you are mistaken.

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