Incorrect addresses displayed, multiple instances

Hi All,

I am writing to inform you regarding the incorrect Legal Addresses displayed on Openstreetmap. I have found below 5 instances where the addresses are displayed in the right street but not in the right position within the street.

  1. Chemin Des Ajoncs 9 56380, Beignon, France
  2. Yrjäksentie 49, 06830, Porvoo, FI-18, Finland
  3. Via dell’Industria 106, 31052, Maserada sul Piave, Italy
  4. 865b Upper Ohauiti Road, Rd 3, 3173, Tauranga, New Zealand
  5. Danedon 16Chalandri 152 32, Greece

Could you please investigate this and see if there is a systematic issue with positions on the maps at your end that needs to be addressed?

Thank you & kind regards, Akshatha

are they differing somehow from regular addresses?

from Chemin Des Ajoncs 9 56380, Beignon, France | OpenStreetMap it appears that street is mapped and specific house numbers are not. Therefore geocoder falls back to locating street (Chemin Des Ajoncs, Beignon, France)

it will remain so until someone will add missing addresses

(note1: we are not allowed to copy them from Google Maps and some official databases - if you are unsure about using some data source, please ask before editing)
(note2: after address will be added geocoders will take some time to ingest data and process it)

Map data not being 100% complete is a known systematic issue. Help with mapping missing things is highly welcome!

(obviously, map data will be never ever 100% complete but we can get closer to very good coverage of various aspects)

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There can’t be a “systematic issue” because that would imply that there was systematic addition of data but that isn’t how OpenStreetMap works.

OpenStreetMap is a collection of data added by volunteers so each individual item has whatever level of accuracy the person that added it was able to achieve and that may improve over time as people update data.

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No, Legal addresses are same as regular addresses. The reason for using the term “Legal address” is to indicate that a Legal Entity is officially registered under this address.

Secondly, the complete address for example: Chemin Des Ajoncs 9 56380, Beignon, France points out to the middle of street instead of pointing the exact house number.

As already mentioned by @Mateusz_Konieczny , individual house numbers have not been mapped on that street. As the search engine has no way of knowing where number 9 is, it places you roughly in the middle of the street.

So the issue in this example is not “wrong” address but incomplete address data.

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Also, note that location listed in search results is an entire street.

Residential Road Chemin des Ajoncs, La Lande Beignon, Beignon, Vannes, Morbihan, Brittany, Metropolitan France, 56380, France

If specific building/shop is found it will be described as such.

House 1, Sienna, Old Town, Stare Miasto, Old Town, Krakow, Lesser Poland Voivodeship, 31-041, Poland

This specific address isn’t mapped at all on OSM. The nearest mapped numbers I see on that street are 18 and 18a. That street has almost no mapped street numbers.
As the others said, it’s not incorrect addresses, but incomplete/lack of data. There are many ways one can help mapping those addresses. And for sure it will take time for most of those addresses to get mapped, even in big cities, if a mapper doesn’t have that as a main long-term focus.

I have to ask how you found out that these addresses are “wrong”?

With a geographic spread like that, I would be very surprised if you were just passing one day & noticed “Hey, that’s not where Number 9 is!”

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That’s absolutely right! There is definitely no way to find out house nr 9 using OSM. I expected a more helpful response rather I receive unprofessional comments. Can you please stick to the root cause of the problem rather than using this platform as a medium for your entertainment and frustrations !!!

Unfortunately for us, some of our customers use OSM and I am seeking advice or help to sort this issue.

Again, to give you a context, other Map/s (that you are very well aware of) are highly accurate and point out the exact house number.
If you read the address carefully they mention 9 (Chemin Des Ajoncs 9 56380, Beignon, France) which is indeed the house number.

Request you to please stick to the topic rather than unnecessary comments.

I’m not sure what advice we can give beyond what has already been said. If exact addresses are important to your customers, you could suggest they contribute to OpenStreetMap. They could survey streets with incomplete address data and add the missing numbers. In some countries there may be projects in progress to import addresses from official sources, that your customers could help with.

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Indeed! thank you for your valuable advise. I definitely am passing this information to our customers!
Thanks again

Please understand that OSM is mainly made by volunteers, not paid professionals, you should’nt expect any customer service, even if we try our best to be helpfull, it can come with some friendly banter.

Even if the data exists from legal sources, we do not import it to our database without a manual control. It takes a lot of time to do it. For example in France, we have so far roughly 60% of all addresses in OSM, and it might take 5 to 10 years to reach completion.

If some datas are absolutely necessary for your (or your client’s) needs, you can add them yourself, or hire someone to do it, but don’t expect the community to give it a higher priority, because we already have our own goals.

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I wish to close this thread. Thank you all for your responses.

What happened to the post by Ashley0489 30 minutes ago? Why isn’t it visible that something was removed?

I guess that you can self-remove posts shortly after posting, and they will just disappear.

I seen it few minutes ago (deleted but with trace), marked as deleted by author.

I made post below and deleted it. Now it appears as “(post deleted by author)”. If you do not see in a few minutes, then it confirms guess above.

here I can see that the post (published 1 min ago) was deleted by the author (you), while I do not see any trace of the one I mentioned above

Their post was also seen for some time. If you do not see in a few minutes/hours, then it confirms guess above.

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btw., there is a bug that the first letter is removed from quotes, happened to me as well.

I still see your post, deleted 38 minutes ago, but I didn’t see the other post, critical of the admins, 30 minutes after it was sent.

One of the options available to moderators is “delete post”. I’m not a mod here and so cannot comment on what actually happened, but that is a possibility. The account has been deleted too