I think thereâs a lot of noise and duplication there though and they will definitely need cleaning up before they are imported - just in the top ten there is osm and openstreetmap both of which seem pretty pointless as they will apply to almost everything.
There also a korean tag with over 100 uses that translates as something spammy - possibly a side effect of some spam run.
Maybe we can do a clean-up of the 50 or higher and then let if anything missing to be created organically?
Note that >50 is still a considerable amount (171)
100 or more is 76
200 or more is 33
The other question is, how much we want to drive people to use the existing tags vs using the ones that are more useful for the new content that will be generated here?
I think Discourse supports both categories and tags? If so would an âeditingâ category and âJOSMâ and âIDeditorâ tags make more sense than separate categories? Or would they be created as say sub-categories of editing (I donât know how many levels of nesting are planned)?
I found the tagging on OSM Help quite useful. Unfortunately, many new users did not tag properly, i.e. they entered meaningless tags, just repeated the whole question as tags or ( unconsciously) created redundant/duplicate tags.
I find it a good idea that users can create new tags but I also think it is necessary (at least in the help category) that established users can update or add to the tags.
Already seeding the tag list with established ones from OSM Help would probably also help. Weâd have to clean up Tomâs list a bit: unify redundant tags (address, addressing, addresses), remove meaningless ones (error, OSM), remove stubs from writing tags with spaces (no, on), etc. We would have to think what to do with language tags (lang-de, lang-es). I think that was discussed elsewhere.
I meant can experienced users change tags of other usersâ questions after they were created? New/one-time help seekers often miss choosing appropriate tags. On Help that is possible. Here I could not find a way.
Would it be possible to disambiguate explicitly between the cases where the word âtagâ is used to designate help topics and the cases where it is used to describe objects in OSM modeling?
Unless of course I get it wrong and theyâre the same. In which case it would help if that was explicit too.
âexplicitâ doesnât mean âobvious from the context for all insidersâ. My brain is still sore from all the implicit notions I has to investigate a year ago when joining the communityâŠ
My suggestion would be to remove all those tags from help osm, which are no longer in current use much or even outdated. Help OSM has been around for quite some time, and looking at how frequent a tag is being used is only telling half the story. To name one example, âpotlatch2â would seem like a tag we donât need anymore.
Overall, I would also recommend to make the list much shorter, and wait for a new tagging to evolve on this site. We donât want new users to be drowned with tags, which donât make much sense to them. Even when using 50 as a threshold, the list of âMost Significant Tagsâ stills feels much too long to me.
We also might need to look into tag groups, and define tags specifically for the Help section in DIscourse.
@TZorn I like the approach @mmd suggested. We can keep the list you curated a bit shorter and once more people starts using this forums we can decide if we need to import or people have already started to populate tags here organically based on the new help topics created.
