Footway=crossing way segments for highway=service and highway=foot way intersections

[PherJess]

Hi everyone, I noticed that a lot of highway=crossing nodes (example: node 11137444633) that are used for intersections between highway=service and highway=footway do not have a separate way segment for the crossing, footway=crossing. In comparison, highway=crossing (node 11137444631) that is used for the highway=residential and highway=footway intersection, exists a footway=crossing way segment (way 1201217005).

For intersections between highway=service and highway=footway, are footway=crossing way segments not required?

[Minh_Nguyen (Minh Nguyễn)]

@PherJess

For intersections between highway=service and highway=footway, are footway=crossing way segments not required?

If a sidewalk is mapped as a separate way, it should become a highway=footway footway=crossing way anywhere there’s a highway=crossing node for consistency. In that case, the crossing node is mainly there for backwards compatibility. However, it isn’t always necessary to map a crossing at all when a service road and sidewalk intersect. Here’s another thread about this topic:

Should I use highway=crossing where service roads cross a sidewalk?

When sidewalks are mapped as separate features, they often cross service roads, e.g. parking lot entrances. When they do, there is often no gap in the sidewalk. The wiki page for highway=crossing doesn’t mention this situation and makes me feel like the tag wasn’t intended to be used this way. While it is technically a crossing, tagging it as such seems unnecessary, especially when it results in StreetComplete asking about islands, tactile paving, etc. The tags crossing=marked/unmarked also don…

[aighes (Henning)]

Hey,

I believe it’s not a question whether it’s required or not, but rather a question of effort and benefit.
So the main benefit is to have a warning for the cars and adding detailed information like kerb,… to the sidewalk. Both are not that much of a benefit on highway=service, as usually the sidewalk just continues and the cars are not that fast/paying attention anyway.

[Mateusz_Konieczny]

@PherJess

For intersections between highway=service and highway=footway, are footway=crossing way segments not required?

footway=crossing footway=sidewalks segments are optional detail that may, but not must be, added to higway=footway or highway=path or highway=cycleway representing sidewalks.