Note that licenses relevant to us may also deal with database rights (quite relevant to database projects like OpenStreetMap, see Database right - Wikipedia ) and other things like patents.
I fixed the wiki, it seems pretty clear that the claim was unfounded.
Nit picking but CC0 isn’t actually a licence (and this is actually quite relevant as it is popular for collections of third party data that people believe is then “licensed” on CC0 terms).
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Please edit the wiki page ! Don't copy from other maps - OpenStreetMap Wiki
This page is a wiki, so please add any sentences you think are relevant ! It’s not mine.
I see many message in this topic, but too few changes on the wiki… without your help, this page will remain in its current state.
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Nit picking: while cc0 is a public domain dedication, it also includes a permissive fallback license for places where public domain is not possible.
Well to nitpick further the actual text doesn’t use “public domain” at all, it is simply a waiver of all rights the entity making the declaration has in the material. The fallback licence only applies to specific rights that are not possible to waive, and the major case of that would be moral rights in specific countries (which typically wouldn’t exist in non-creative works).
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A few thoughts on the Wiki page below. I wasn’t sure on the answers specifically, hence posting here rather than editing myself.
(Google Maps, Yandex Maps, Naver Maps etc.)
Some big names are missing there (e.g., Bing Maps, Apple Maps). Might be worth including or adding to the exclusion below.
Some map services may allow the use of their data in OSM
Might be useful to list a few examples? Possibly also worth linking what it means to “be allowed” or not (e.g., even CC-BY4 isn’t without a waiver)
But note that some resources may be on compatible license but of a low quality, what in turns block copying.
This isn’t an exception but is more a clarification of the first exception. I suggest we put it on the same line (and tweak the language a little to improve the grammar - happy to do that myself).
Old maps can be used if they are old enough (mostly if they are over 70 years old), but the problem with this is that those map can be outdated.
This is a bit hand-wavy. I think this because of the notion of “falling out of copyright”? If so, probably best to clarify that. But I’m not sure whether this based on the legal definition of out of copyright in the country the map was made, the location of the mapper, or the UK’s (or wherever) laws?
Also, just to flag there’s the Legal FAQ page which might also be worth referencing.
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As in so many cases there’s a subtlety to the answer to this that a great many people simply do not understand. You and many others in this thread do understand the subtleties, but it’s very awkward dealing with the average person who doesn’t.
Even more tricky when they are actually correct to claim that facts, in and of themselves, cannot be copyrighted. The distinction that particular arrangements and choices of facts CAN be copyrighted utterly escapes them however. As does database right (of course only an issue in the EU and UK).
Bashing heads against brick walls comes to mind when dealing with intellectual property law and the average person!
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As does database right (of course only an issue in the EU and UK).
in OpenStreetMap we made it a global issue, so that the data can be used in these countries (being based in the UK, we cannot escape their law anyway)
Well, Bing uses OSM data, and Apple uses some OSM data wherever TomTom (which the last time I checked was its proprietary data source) doesn’t cover well. That’s why Bing is not included.