County's newest orthoimargy doesnt have a WMTS server. Any possible way to use the most recent imagry despite that?

Help and support
1

Im trying to use the 2024 aerials but there is no WMTS server available?

Is there any way to use the 2024 imagery in JOSM, IDEditor, or RapidEditor or am I just stuck using the 2023 imagery which provides a WMTS link?

2

Try Aerials2025 (ImageServer)

Looks like they have just missed 2024

make sure we are allowed to use the imagery (what licence is it released under)

1 Like
3

You can use the ArcGIS proxy: https://cloudflare-ags-proxy.93b6cf.workers.dev/

Put the image server URL in the box on the left, click update, and then take the text that’s in the box in the lower left to your editor.

1 Like
4

The exportImage function can be used like a WMS. Here is the corresponding URL for the 2024 images:
https://egis.pinellas.gov/gis/rest/services/Aerials/Aerials2024/ImageServer/exportImage?f=image&bbox={bbox}&imageSR={wkid}&bboxSR={wkid}&size={width},{height}

By the way, the exportImage function is listed below under „Supported Operations“:
https://egis.pinellas.gov/gis/rest/services/Aerials/Aerials2024/ImageServer

See also: I need help with importing aerial orthoimagery from a municipality's open data into JOSM - #10 by whb

1 Like
5

YESSS! Thank you so much! :sparkling_heart: I had no idea there was a 2025 version. It wasnt listed on the aerial folder for some reason. How did you find it despite their being no references to it on the website?

Also I couldn’t find a license its listed under since all the license info is blank so im going to go and email the county’s GIS department to see if they know what license its using. If there is no licence associated with it do you know if its free to use for OSM mapping?

6

I did find this post but I forgot to mention it! :face_with_tongue: I realize my error now was is this link works for IDeditor but not JOSM and I was only trying to use JOSM. Do you know a format I can use so this works with JOSM too? JOSM has a different format for the keys and that’s why it didn’t work with JOSM when I found that post earlier.

If this manages to work with JOSM this will be the solution as its the most native solution.

7

When adding the WMS in JOSM, enter the URL directly at step 6 “Edit generated WMS URL (optional)” with a preceding “wms:”:
wms:https://egis.pinellas.gov/gis/rest/services/Aerials/Aerials2024/ImageServer/exportImage?f=image&bbox={bbox}&imageSR={wkid}&bboxSR={wkid}&size={width},{height}

The format for the keys is the same in JOSM.

3 Likes
8

This is kind of tricky. Under Florida state law, no county government agency is permitted to claim copyright over its own works. Microdecisions v. Skinner found that county GIS maps are public records and thus in the public domain.[1] However, this would only apply to the orthoimagery layer if the county captured the imagery in house. Assuming they contracted it out, you’d have to find out if the RfP includes a provision giving the county ownership of the imagery or placing it in the public domain.

Before you go down that rabbit hole, chances are the county would know whether the upstream provider places any restrictions on usage. In fact, I’d just ask if they have or know of any restrictions. The exact name or shape of the license is kind of beside the point.

Even if you hear bad news from them, I’ve found that the same county imagery often turns up in Esri World Imagery before long. This is a proprietary layer, but Esri has explicitly granted permission for any open data project to trace from it, especially OSM.

  1. This was an influential case that factored into my county in California losing their case, putting all California government works in the public domain too. ↩︎

2 Likes