August 15, 2018, 2:46am
I started to think recently that it might make sense to change “name” tag value of your country from “United States of America” to just “United States”. Here’s why I think that:
the OSM wiki tells that name tag should include “common default name” (
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Key_Variations) the name of Wikipedia article in English is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States (also in definition: “commonly known as the United States”) I guess “United States of America” belongs rather to official_name (example from OSM wiki: official_name=Principat d’Andorra (where “name” is name=Andorra))
it would be similar to the UK case: name=“United Kingdom”/official_name=“United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”
What do you think about it?
August 15, 2018, 12:16pm
I have no opinion, but such a change should first be discussed further with all other channels such as
OSM talk mailing list https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
OSM US talk mailing list https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Slack US https://osmus-slack.herokuapp.com/
And even then, there are people who don’t follow any of those discussion lists and may object.
August 16, 2018, 5:07pm
Thanks, I’ve sent the message.
Of course there will always be people not aware of it, but that doesn’t mean that change is not possible. I have already made such change for Russia some time ago and I have heard no serious objections against it - and the tagging has been not reverted, even if that’s visible for everyone.
September 6, 2018, 5:42pm
The ‘name=*’ tag has recently been reverted to ‘United States of America’. Was this the result of discussion or just someone acting on their own?
September 6, 2018, 5:49pm
Thanks for noticing.
I’m not aware of any discussion beside this thread. Also it’s quite fresh mapper and he/she doesn’t use changset comments, so probably some communication will be needed.
Just to let you know, it was changed again. This time another unexperienced user. Or am I wrong?
September 12, 2018, 12:17pm
She was just adding int_name=United States of America, name tag has not been changed. It’s defined on wiki as:
so it is not clear if it has to be common name, official name or anything else. At least this is not just plain wrong and I have no plan to change it, but maybe you’d like to decide.