Meanwhile, I studied a bit the history of the site and also found a proposal “Beer details”. It proposes that the key brewery should be used to list all brands that are served - regardless of whether they are tapped or bottled. In the proposal it is suggested to describe more details with drink:pilsner=draft or drink:pilsner=bottled and more detailed with drink:weizen:Paulaner=draft. Accordingly, I would understand the Key brewery as asking for all available brands.
As a result, I’d like to tighten up the description in the wiki that it’s about all brands of beer served, whether bottled or on tap. Is there any objection to this?
On the talk page it is addressed that the value ‘various’ is not helpful, but meanwhile it takes a high rank in the values. Is it ok that I include this value in the wiki and describe that the point is that many beers are sold here? Or should yes rather be used instead of various to say in general that there is beer served here?
Edit: The iD preset calls the whole field “Draft Beers”, but by what definition? This should also be redefined in the course of this.
That comment was probably made by someone from a country where every pub has multiple beers on tap. They probably did not realise that there are countries where many pubs, restaurants and cafés only sell one or two beers, and having many different beers available is the exception rather than the rule. In these places brewery=various is useful and says something very different from just “place sells beer”.
By the way when the pub, biergarten, restaurant or café only sells beer from one brewery there is usually a sign outside, and branding everywhere: on the glasses, beer mats, awnings, umbrellas.
This picture helps illustrate the idea.
The two beer brands (Schneider Weisse and König Pilsener) are more prominent than the name of the pub.
To say that a place sells beer, there’s also drink:beer=yes which has been used 2,800 times (brewery=yes: 6,600 times). Is there any difference between the intended definitions of brewery=yes and drink:beer=yes? If not, then should the Wiki page maybe suggest using drink:beer=yes instead of brewery=yes? (Note the page already has brewery=yes and no as possible tagging mistakes.)
Should we also create a bug ticket in Every Door and ask them to encourage people to type the names of beers available, instead of selecting yes/no/various?
Meanwhile, real_ale= has also been badly misunderstood, but that probably deserves its own thread.
the value various has become common. Nevertheless, please note that this value does not provide any added value and the same information can be expressed with drink:beer=yes
One says they sell beer, the other says they sell many different beers. Like I said above I find that worth tagging, especially in places where having many different beers is unusual. The German Wiki showed it well I thought: use various when there are too many to spell them out (as a rough guide, 5 or more).
So I think various values should be documented on the wiki as such and removed from Possible tagging mistakes section, especially given its non-insignificant (>2000) usage, which is in fact by far most popular value for brewery=* key (after even more generic yes)