Buses without physical infrastructure

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I started adding bus routes in Warrington UK and would welcome some feedback. So far I only made progress on Bus 7. I am working my way through the wiki doing it step by step: bus stops, ways though I just skipped a step and created a route_master relationship in order to be able to ask this question.

My main concern is about bus stops without physical infrastructure. I have verified that a bus does indeed stop in a place, but there’s no sign, physical platform, departure board etc. In order to have a complete route I need to add it, but it feels to me also against OSM ground truth concept? Two typical situations in my area are:

  1. bus stop pole and sign are one side of the street, but not the on the return journey. Passengers still wait on the side they expect the bus to arrive. This bus stop is an an example.
  2. no sign at all, just a random paved surface on the side of the roads e.g. here.

Finally, there’s also a side issue which perhaps is UK specific. Vespucci presents a lot of Naptan import/survey needed tasks for bus stops. How do I process them? I have probably by now verified most if not all bus stops in my area, so what should I do with these tasks and naptan tags?

Please let me know.

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You can move node to place, where passengers normally entry, and add physically_present=no.

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There’s at least one data consumer of that data (me!) - see here for a example. The northern bus stop there is shown with a pole, the southern one is shown without. Here is another without a pole, that one has physically_present=no. Both of the “not present” ones in this example are naptan:BusStopType=CUS stops, which if found in the imported UK Naptan data tends to mean “the bus stops here but there is no pole”.

Edit: Clarified that Naptan data is in the UK

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