Hello,
I’m founder of AED Map - automated defibrillators in your smartphone and my user suggested to add custom tag that informs that defibrillator is placed inside fire truck. Many of defibs operated by volunteer fire brigades in Poland puts them inside trucks.
Can you suggest how to approach that? Maybe utilize existing tag? Or introduce new one?
Best Regards,
Mateusz Woźniak
Is loadout information for a crew served vehicle really OSM-worthy? This feels a little up there with natural=human given the lack of fixed location of the vehicle.
Hi Mateusz, welcome to our forum.
I believe the idea behind your question is to give information that a defibrillator inside a fire station may be found in the fire truck itself. There is no way to tag this properly imo.
If you place a node for the defibrillator into the fire station where the fire truck is usually parked no one will find it in case of an emergency when the fire truck is out during an operation. Even a comment like “located in the fire truck” will not help much in such situation.
Besides that we do not map mobile equipment at all, neither the truck nor any equipment on board.
Yeah, I’m a little confused about what exactly is being mapped. I wouldn’t think one would be mapping in general the firefighting or EMT equipment inside an emergency vehicle, as presumably the people operating the vehicle would know about it and other people wouldn’t have a need to. Is the idea here that if one was assisting someone with a medical emergency while walking on the sidewalk in front of the fire station, or while attending a meeting in the same building or whatever, that one might be expected to let oneself into the fire truck to get the AED out? Like, it’s publicly available, like one hanging on the wall might be, just stored in a fire truck that’s (usually?) parked inside?
In general, I think description= is underutilized, both by mappers and data consumers, for help describing those weird things that someone might want to know but aren’t really part of a good tagging scheme. But I’d be skeptical of its use in this case unless the truck is almost always in one place.
I’m more wondering how this isn’t moot since it’s reasonable to expect a fire station to be well-equipped to handle emergency first aid, especially if their trucks (which have most of their deployable equipment for obvious reasons) are present.
“Fire station” includes rural and wildfire stations, which sometimes are only capable of dealing with fires – and sometimes aren’t even equipped to handle building fires.
For example: Spokane County Station 23.
Good point. Maybe we need something like ambulance=no or staffed=no for dealing with the volunteer edge case.
Another country specific thing, I believe:
In Germany there are dedicated (voluntary) fire stations and dedicated ambulance stations. Rarely are they connected, if ever.
Many small towns have a voluntary firefighter brigade (as mandated by law 
) and their stations are being equipped with AEDs for public use, meaning that the AEDs are mounted on the outer walls of the budings. That happens because they usually are centrally located, plublicly owned, and have power supply.
To the question by OP: I don’t think it’s a good idea to map objects inside a potentially moving other object.