Why is Vespucci asking for a "reference" regarding the fire extinguisher?

After adding the tag DE:Tag:emergency=fire_extinguisher - OpenStreetMap Wiki Vespucci is asking to fill a value for the missing key “reference”.

I could not find any wiki explanation for reference in connection to fire extinguisher.

What does Vespucci demand here?

See ref on Tag:emergency=fire_hydrant - OpenStreetMap Wiki near the bottom of the table.

I did not look to the hydrant Wiki, but know that ref is a common key used for several objects. It was somehow a misunderstanding, I thought Vespucci wants me to enter a tag “reference” (written out in full) instead “ref”.

Nonetheless, it just bothers me that Vespucci repeatedly prompts me to add a value to theref tag and it becomes annoying when there is no actual value on-site to enter. Especially since the Wiki correctly states: ref=* ... if applicable. Therefore, what I would like is for Vespucci to stop being annoying.

What do you mean with “demand”?

You can either simply turn the check off Preferences - Vespucci overall, or create a version of the hydrant preset without a ref tag (and some other variants like proposing a regional variant of the preset).

I’ll try … - thanks.

I suppose to need further assistance.

Looking into the help chapter in regard to presets I find:

Looking at my screen I see:

Where can I find the icon for the function to manage presets?

The cog icon is the current icon for the preferences. Creating your own preset is not difficult but on the other hand it does need some relevant experience, I would suggest simply disabling the “missing tags” validation as a quick way of suppressing the warning.

My bad, for whatever reason I kept on reading fire hydrant not fire extinguisher, don’t really have an excuse for that ;-).

In any case most of what I wrote remains correct, but I’ll likely just make it an optional field in the default preset, that would seem to be more appropriate, so I would suggest waiting a couple of days for me to resolve Make ref for emergency=fire_extinguisher optional · Issue #522 · simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset · GitHub

FSVO “demand”.

Objects that fail validation are highlighted (colour depends on which validation, in this case the preset driven “missing tag” warning) and potentially generate a notification … the original highlighting goes back to ~2010, notifications back to 0.9.7, a decade ago.

Then maybe the missing of a ref on fire hydrants should not fail validation? Where does Vespucci source the information from what to mark as a warning?

See above, it is a combination of preset content and oh gosh… user configuration.

I’ve release a version of the presets with the change (and some other updates) here Releases · simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset · GitHub

You can change to this version by following the instructions here Videos & Screenshots - Vespucci or simply wait for the ~mid-month maintenance update of the app.

You can’t just offload blame onto “user configuration” when empirically most users do not know how to navigate to that configuration menu

Fixing the defaults, as you did above, is the correct response

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Thanks, I’ll look into it.

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