Which of OSM's four elements for The Forks in Winnipeg should be linked to Wikidata?

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OSM has four elements for The Forks:

Which OSM element best matches the Wikipedia article The Forks, Winnipeg and should be tagged wikidata=Q3080046?

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I would say that if Wikipedia merges multiple concepts into one article you can link it on multiple objects

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If 2 or 3, yes. If 1,000s - no. Currently lots of wikipedia and wikidata values are just linked to much higher level concepts (e.g. here), which isn’t really helpful.

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Definitely indicator of something possibly going badly! And quite bad smell.

But I do not think it is entirely wrong to link from each segment of river or road.

For example linking Way: ‪Opolska‬ (‪1136966900‬) | OpenStreetMap to Ulica Opolska w Krakowie – Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia and doing it for each segment seems fine

this one has “only” 92 segments but longer road going through entire city can easily have more

I agree, see https://matkoniecz.github.io/OSM-wikipedia-tag-validator-reports/

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Even though the wikipedia article conflates different subjects, wikidata elements should be created for all the different concepts, frankly Wikipedia should too.

  • The urban park
  • The National Historic Site
  • The neighbourghood (boundary + locality node)

EDIT: The elements in OSM were wrongly mapped, I updated them according to official documentation Changeset: 177304674 | OpenStreetMap That should alleviate some confusion

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Ha, I had commented this elsewhere just yesterday:

Likewise, “OpenStreetMap says/does ______” is not good justification for making changes to Wikipedia, Wikidata or anything else.

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That’s a sprawling article. The multiple infoboxes are a red flag that it should be split apart. Similarly, the Wikidata item’s multiple conflicting inception (P571) statements trigger a validator warning, so clearly the item should be split apart. If Wikipedians prefer to keep it all together in one place for notability reasons, then the Wikidata item should be an instance of Wikimedia article covering multiple topics (Q21484471), linking to separate items about each of the more specific topics. Then there would be no conflict on the OSM side.

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