I have never seen such parking, what sign is it? Having motorcar=designated (with access=no to forbid the parking for everyone else) is quite common on parkings, but the usual intention is to prevent hgv parking there, and these would be included in motor_vehicle.
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Just a big P with opening hours. De area has a fence around it, and only regular car parking spaces inside (some with chargers). So it’s the layout that says it’s for cars (and motorcycles I guess). hgv is not mentioned, but I think it’s in a zone where hgv’s are only allowed for loading/unloading, not parking.
I used the ohsome dashboard to get a grip on what kind of highways this curious motor_vehicle=designated appears in different regions.
In Europe it is mostly used in Finland, and there mostly on highway=tertiary and up. Maybe redundant, maybe fine.
Different picture in Germany: 1142km tracks of 1600km total; Austria: 74km tracks of 125km total. France and Spain also used a lot on tracks, but smaller percentage because used a lot on primary and up too.
I suspect it is very often used where the Vienna Convention sign “No motor vehicles allowed” is posted with an addon sign specifying exclusions.
I could now just change the translation in iD to make it obvious, that designated is much the same as yes. But that affects all access tagging. So I ask. Where to file issues regarding translations in iD? Should the German community be asked first?
PS: In JOSM the wizards do not offer the combination at all.
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ask German-speaking community and change translation
if translation of English message is following it and is still bad, then likely English message is bad - and issue at GitHub - openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema: 🆔🏷 The presets and other tagging data used by the iD editor should be filed
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Done asking the Germans. BTW in Poland – out of a total of ~460km of highways where it is found – this tag appears on 288km of tracks. It seems to be special to tracks there too.
motor_vehicle is not equal to motorcar, which is a subset of all motor vehicles. In your case motorcar = designated is appropriate.
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Looks like this is what happens on some cycleways in Finland. It’s not the correct local tagging convention, but the English wiki page for motor_vehicle doesn’t really point in the right direction in this situation.
No idea what’s going on with the tertiary and up highways, but I guess at worst the value is just meaningless there.
I’m struggling to imagine a legitimate use for this. Some kind of track intended for racing all kinds of motor vehicles, that isn’t restricted to customers?
I am struggling but I can imagine using it for say place=square entirely eaten by bunch of junctions.
It can be used on say highway=motorway or highway=tertiary but feels entirely redundant there.
Some contributor from the German community stepped up and created the Wikidata item that supplies the iD help text for editing raw tagging. Remains the tooltip in the suggested attributes pane that in German is unintelligible.
Just curious: Why does “vehicle=*” not exist in the iD editor base arsenal for road acces? It is one of the base signs in Vienna Convention countries …
What sign are you referring to? It is a commonly used tag though, mostly for prohibitions. I don’t think there is a way to sign vehicle=designated. That seems so fall into the same category as motor_vehicle=designated.
We are getting off-topic. But as far as I can tell, there is no other way in iD to map it other than by going to the raw-tags pane. Unlike the motor-vehicle condition, that seems to be grossly mismapped …
support vehicle=* tag · Issue #378 · openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema · GitHub - main blocker is that suport was not implemented so far by anyone
if translation of English message is following it and is still bad, then likely English message is bad - and issue at GitHub - openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema: 
The presets and other tagging data used by the iD editor should be filed
if German translation is bad, it should be updated
Well, the translation leaves out something quite essential. Namely that access=designated includes access=yes for that mode of transport. May I ask again, why so many motor_vehicle=designated on highway=track in Poland?
motor_vehicle includes mofa and moped, I do not like opposite tagging for those, often forgotten, this is bad for the moped and mofa community. The smaller communities, with less people to correct the failures.
It is not only about designated for cars, … double_tracked_motor_vehicle
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Transifex is a horror!
To even get there!
I stay shy to tell what I think of the “*=designated” concept in OSM, one thing: not so easy to convey to lay persons.
What a human, complex, sticky mess this all is…and we continue to listen to each other as we solve things. It’s amazing to be around and even watch, I am sometimes humbled as I participate. Thanks, everyone; keep up the good work. Amazing project, OSM is; the whole planet humming and nodding together mapping.
I could drone on about bad AI and NL translations (had a hand in or interest in), suffice it to say that magic shortcuts that radically move things forward hugely are rare. I’ll leave it at that. Keep talking.
Thanks for adding this and apologies for reviving the thread after several weeks.
Where I’ve encountered motor_vehicle=designated most often in the UK has been where a small number of Busmiles.uk users incorrectly interpreted it to mean “designated vehicles only” i.e. motor_vehicle=private. They often added equally incorrect access=no and psv=yes|designated tags for good measure. I though they had mostly been fixed, but I encountered a couple of examples in Northampton yesterday.
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