In all seriousness though, adding these pois in my local industrial estate I found a great need for a poi tag for a distribution/fulfilment centre (as in an actual amenity= or similar, not landuse=industrial + industrial=logistics). For example, this place Node: Little Amber Fish Ltd (13203307146) | OpenStreetMap is a distributor of vinyl records, not a shop. There’s no proper tag for that as far as I know. Likewise, next door Node: Multistorage Ltd (13203307145) | OpenStreetMap is literally just a ready-made fulfilment centre for hire. Also in this estate is AO.com’s fulfilment centre. Currently I’ve tagged a placeholder office=logistics_centre for each of them. Another such example I would have trouble tagging is big distribution centres that supermarkets operate (they only deliver to their own stores, not customers). Currently a lot of these around the country are simply tagged building=yes + name=Tesco/Sports Direct/Ford etc etc. Example: Way: Morrisons (warehouse) (94817063) | OpenStreetMap. It would also make sense to use brand:wikidata/operator:wikidata here. Had a discussion with @Friendly_Ghost on the subject to try to come up with some ideas, it’s quite a complex topic with lots of different types of warehouses/distribution centres.
Anyway, the point is we could take this opportunity to standardise tagging of logistics centres, given our country’s apparent obsession with them.
Also in my edits I made use of e.g. addr:substreet=Cranborne Centre, which is a tag I would encourage people to use in regards to industrial estates, as many businesses will list their unit number and industrial estate before (or instead of) their street address.
Another point is it’s often very hard to identify the purpose of a specific business just from the outside (works/trade shop/office/distributor) so I ended up looking at all the websites I could find for the businesses I had noted down to find what tags were appropriate for each.
That thread is quite focussed on dark stores which is obvs. very different from a Sainsbury’s distribution centre. amenity=warehouse is a problematic/controversial ( How to tag: Online groceries (Gorillas, Getir, Flink, ...) - #21 by JesseFTW ) key as I have a hard time grouping these kinds of facilities with the rest of the amenities. Also, there seems to be quite a vague definition of what ‘warehouse’ actually means (Some sources say that warehouse is specifically only for long-term storage, some sources think a warehouse specifically only refers to the building type) and I’d like to use a tag that very clearly encompasses all levels of logistics facilites (which could then be subtagged into fulfilment centre, distribution centre, depot etc as necessary.)
I probably need to make a summary of what was discussed, logistics is a lot more complex than it might look on the surface!
Technically, warehousing and distribution is classified as commerce rather than industry. (Although OSM’s use of “commercial” is slightly at odds with the technical definition, as OSM “commercial” seems to include some of what should be retail too). That said, there are a few uses of commercial=distribution_centre for such places - which seems to be a reasonable tag to me. (Though possibly most of them were added by me when I faced the same issue of how to tag them.)
Is it? Most sources I was looking at consider logistics as part of industrial, (areas used for production, transportation or storage of goods), and OSM has Tag:industrial=warehouse - OpenStreetMap Wiki already with >8000 uses. The problem with commercial=distribution_centre is it’s a subtag of building=commercial or landuse=commercial, which I think is wrong, I want a standalone tag that can be used without a landuse, and on a node. (And eventually means it could have an icon on carto and other renderers).
It was a while ago now, but GCSE Commerce taught me that Commerce = Trade + the five Aids to Trade (advertising, banking, insurance, warehousing and transport). This broadly aligns with Commerce - Wikipedia .
In technical terms, primary and secondary industry is about extracting raw materials and making things from them, while retail is about selling goods and services to the public. Commerce is the bits in between that help make exchanges of goods happen smoothly. But all that might not align with how OSM has chosen to define things.
(BTW: in OSM you can use whatever tags you like, so you don’t have to have a *=commercial to be able to use commercial=* on something. Though if distribution centres are commercial, then building=commercial would be fine. If you prefer to think of them as industrial, then building=industrial with industrial=distribution_centre or industrial=warehouse would work too.)
maybe it depends on a scale/type? small scale warehouse that may sometimes be close to a shop or actual shop on one end, gigantic piles of materials or containers in a port on other side of the range
I’m not speaking about tagging distribution/ warehouse buildings, I’m trying to find/create a tag for the actual logistics centre poi! Building= is not always the same as building:use so we can’t rely on the building type to tell us where there are logistics points that drivers are going to want to navigate to. Likewise it can’t be a landuse tag because there might be multiple (small) logistics centres inside one large building.
As I said, I would regard distribution centres as commercial, so when faced with the same problem, I used commercial=distribution_centre. I don’t think it matters that there’s not necessarily a commercial=* on the same object, as you can use any tags you like.
In the absence of any existing tag, it seems obvious that it should be *=distribution_centre (or some other synonym.) The question then is what the * should be. It’s clearly not shop, amenity doesn’t feel right as it’s not public facing, and as you’ve said landuse and building aren’t suitable either. But industrial or commercial seem like good candidates to me, with the choice down to how you want to classify the activity of providing distribution services.
I’d just go ahead and use something of the form *=distribution_centre. If/when someone comes up with a better solution, the tags can always be migrated.