Just noticed that some areas put name for traffic signals. Do we need to add this useless feature into OSM actually? For Persimpangan I think only appy for big interchange/intersection is enough. Junction should be reduced. Imagine you go to work and pass 10 junction with names. Persimpangan Taman Putra, Persimpangan Jalan Bakawali/Jalan Ehsan. And maybe after this someone would like to add ref code or name for every road lamps right? Too detail actually. Just my 2 cents and I hope someone can answer my question. And Hari Raya Aidilfitri to all the Muslim mappers in OSM.
Also, if an app is going to display (or announce) those annoying junction names, well, the best thing to do is let the developers know that their navigation app should be changed to reflect what the end users tend to like. It means us OpenStreetMap contributors shouldn’t bend the data too hard to follow an app exclusively.
And also, for the sake of using OSM in mobile apps, developers should know how to sanitise the raw data properly (see my previous point).
No no, I just wonder do wee need to add this feature to Malaysia OSM data. Truly appreciate ground truth and imagery mapping. But before that, I think we should negotiate first cuz Malaysia got tons of traffic lights. (Especially at Klang Valley, life without traffic light tho) And if the majorities think that adding this feature is no problem then I will let it goes too…
Oic I understand your target now. Though it is not apply for now but for future right? For milestone I dont have opinion since it is useful for navigation. But traffic lights still need to discuss. There are tons of traffic lights. And if Malaysia also need to practice this, how about we write it in OSM wiki and standartize when we need to add the junction name. So if you (all) agree to input this feature, please say it below.
and maybe we can shortern the name.Persimpangan can be something in abbr. e.g. Pspg or not putting it into name like Jln Kekwa/Mawar. Traffic lights direction also should be added if most of us decided to apply this feature for Malaysia.
I’m going to say it again: I see those, I map those. I’m only aware that OsmAnd displays the reference code. I’m really sure those codes are not displayed in Maps.ME (or Wikimedia Maps, Mapbox, etc.). For navigation purposes, I don’t know if those are included in the first two apps I’ve mentioned.
Well, you may brought these to the mailing lists, or the OpenStreetMap help forum to discuss in depth, getting inputs from an international audience.
(Maybe there are other rules in OSM Malasya but) The value of the name seems to be concatenation of the names of the streets, so it seems it isn’t the name of the signal but their location or the intersection it controls. It seems to me that the name tag should’nt be used like that.
The names of these junction may be simply just like that. However, there are cases where it’s not; in short: around my local city of Alor Setar, Kedah and some at grade junctions I’ve ever travelled through across Malaysia.
The rest might be decided by the Department of Works - really depends on what kind of road (i.e. federal ones are maintained by the department on the federal level; and the maintenance of state roads are usually done by the state level of the department). So in these specific cases, they are indeed either “concatenation of the names of the streets” or “their location or the intersection it controls”.