time capsule

Is there any better way of tagging a time capsule other than

tourism=attraction

?

It’s debatable whether it’s a tourist attraction at all. “Oh look, it says there’s a time capsule there. Let’s go visit it and gawk at a slab of paving stone that has the words ‘Time Capsule’ chiselled on it. I can photograph you standing on it. Much better than the Eiffel Tower.”

In fact, is there any point even tagging it? It exists. If you’re a tourist and nearby then you might make a small detour to take a look. But it’s not that big a deal.

Thoughts, anyone?

There are 2 “historic=time_capsule” in Disneyland - https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=time_capsule . There are 10 other things named “Time Capsule” - https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/name=Time%20Capsule . Maybe some of those have tagging that’s worth copying from? Again, “historic” seems to be the preferred main tag there.

I suppose historic=time_capsule is a possibility, although it doesn’t seem to be a sanctioned attribute of historic, according to the wiki.

I had a quick look at one of the sites you suggested, and it seems to be used there for what I want to do.

Certainly, “historic” is a little better than “tourism.” Nobody is going to plan their holidays around seeing a time capsule. Not unless they have the opportunity to open it or see it opened. But…

The problem with using “historic” for a time capsule is that it’s a very small value of “historic.” At the extreme view, everything on the map is historic. The preceding sentence is historic.

But unless anyone comes up with anything better, I’ll probably go with historic. I’ll leave things to fester for a while, just in case somebody adds the tag “crappy_thing_you_might_want_to_look_at_but_wouldn’t_plan_your_holiday_around.” :smiley:

I wouldn’t worry too much about what the wiki says, especially for things that are rare in the real world. It’s pretty much impossible for someone writing a wiki page to think of all of the possibilities that might fit under a certain tag.

Yeah, I understand the difficulties of anticipating everything. It’s why things keep evolving. And, like biological evolution, we get vestigial appendages here and there, and bodges where things end up doing stuff that’s different from what they started out doing (the three bones in your ear performing impedance matching started out as bones in the jaw).

Even so, I’m reluctant to add to the mess if there’s something I can co-opt that’s a better fit.

Historic=time_capsule it is, them. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the advice.

I have a problem with the time capsule I’m rendering. The Inscription field is too short. The plaque has the following inscription:

Oh Shenandoah, I long to see you!
“Big Apple Time Capsule”
Dedicated: Oct 19, 1990 - re-open in year 2040
Sponsor: Martinsburg Jaycees
This "Community Pride Project’ is an attempt to
preserve The Apple Capital City and surrounding areas
of our Southern and Shenandoah Valley heritage.
May God bless our endeavors.

The Inscription field doesn’t allow me to add “nd Shenandoah Valley heritage.
May God bless our endeavors.”

The description field has the same problem. Right now, I’ve put in as much as I can then added a note to refer to website for full inscription and description.

@Astromath yes, individual tags in OSM have a maximum value length of 255 characters.

Wanted to revive this topic to make sure historic=time_capsule is still the proper way to tag such. While surveying today I found the following:


Which is situated on my towns main central square housing our historic courthouse, right in front of the flagpole:

Specifically, it’s right in front of this flagpole I mapped separately.

I think it still is. It is now used 53 times worldwide (in 2018 it was used only 4 times).
And there is a proposal from 2023 to formalise historic=time_capsule: Proposal:Time capsule - OpenStreetMap Wiki

Would be more precise to distinguish what’s exactly above-ground, and what’s underground. historic=memorial + memorial=plaque applies to it equally. historic=time_capsule is attractive functionally, but blocks =memorial for it. The inscription= applies to the marker, not the capsule itself.

Some capsules have a =stone

Whatever these should be

I had that thought, but am hesitant to call this a memorial (memorial on Wikipedia) because it’s not commemorating anything. It’s just something my city put in the ground to open at a later point. I can see how some time capsules can commemorate an event but it doesn’t appear this is one of them. But memorial may be as close as can be. Also, very small stakes here.