Woowww, very impressive
Woowww, very impressive
I’m moving this to a separate topic on #site-feedback category.
The current design has not been discussed, but there is flexibility to adapt it to the current and future needs.
I’ve updated the homepage to be more appealing and also list the featured topics in each category, see below other options we might be able to change to if needed.
Just wondering, if the landing page does a good service to invite passers-by to join the conversation. Doesn’t it look a bit empty, with the three categories?
This https://community.openstreetmap.org/ is just that
https://community.openstreetmap.org/categories, wouldn’t it be better
https://community.openstreetmap.org/latest or even
https://community.openstreetmap.org/top, at least for a while?
The categories shown make it look like mostly self-centered, about bringing up a forum. However essential that is, it is not something, that appeals to a broader public I fear, or motivates to share the kind of content, that we want to collect in the long run. The next step, attracting userbase, might now be more of interest? In my view
top does better in this regard, of engaging curiosity and contributions.
Additionally, I’d welcome, if the landing page gave some instructions, on how to personalize that. Such is possible? That would be a great advantage over the old forums. On another note, maybe a tag-cloud was nice too, to highlight, that the system has multiple vectors, not just categories, wouldn’t that make sense?
The current content for this forum is just here to bootstrap and prepare the next steps together.
A migration of the old forum should populate the front page with lots of content !
Here is what it may look like:
^ new version after first full migration test !
It is a very partial raw import of the current forum, I’ve just reorganized only a few categories under the “OpenStreetMap” category to show how it could match the actual hierachy that can be seen on forum.openstreetmap.org
Once I have something stable, I’ll share the URL of this migration test so that everybody can provide feedback on the result.
Thank you Christian, for your efforts. Personally, I hope, that this is not a glimpse at how the site will look like in the future. That would make it a wayback-machine instead.
Thinking of ways to present migrated content: If on the landing page, should be much more compact than such a list! Can the users: prefix get stripped? Should it mix on level foot with all of the categories and tags, that will come to life, except maybe a few, that must be first class citizens (Q&A, Editors, e.g.) and always reside on top?
In the moment, for my own usage, I imagine a customizable feed compiled from categories, tags and other vectors. Just beginning with discourse though. Help wanted! And, of course, a way to learn of new categories and tags, important to help against bubble building (Could be akin to an “anonymous” view, when not logged in?)
This a very raw migration step, of course it can be improved.
“users:” can be removed, we can add flags if we want, etc.
I’ve restarted a new migration test (full one this time, with all posts), you can have a look at it on http://freebox.computel.fr:4200/
The import is in progress, current late 2010. I don’t think login works, no need to try it for the moment.
Can the users: prefix get stripped?
of course categories could change names, but it wouldn’t be desirable, people should find the posts under the same categories as where they are now, otherwise it would contribute to more confusion.
I guess every change is doomed to fail if you are that easily confused
Compared with adjusting to an entirely different forum software (FluxBB → Discourse), I would not expect adjusting to a category name change from users: Brazil to Brazil (for example) to be confusing at all.
I’ve opened a new topic regarding the first full content migration test:
I’m merging this with a related discussion:
I have a hard time imagining how this design would scale beyond the tiny amount of top-level categories we have in the current soft-launch phase.
In my opinion, sections that must be easily discoverable for a new user include:
- The main international categories (“Help and support”, “General discussion”)
- The categories of the local communities which the user is part of. In particular, we need the layout to support top-level categories for local communities.
Sections that can be de-emphasized include:
- “This Site Feedback”, which will mostly be of interest to existing users once the site has become more mature
- All the other local communities
Tobias is right, I’d say. This will not scale. For may personal use of the site, I rather not see any hierarchical stuff at all, where I can dive into subtrees, and never get out of them for the rest of my life. And I think, I won’t be alone. Rather, the entrance should be a kind of feed of things, that I care about, a flat list. And as I consider language and location top priorities for most people, I shared this idea here. Proposal - Language and location based content and categories - #90 by Hungerburg
Caveats: The feed might have “holes”, sure, you will find a work around.
I want to mention this discussion as related part of this topic. (for feedback consolidation as @nukeador noted)
There are a few principles that I find interesting to consider:
- Allow the forum to be used by more people to observe how the current features/behaviors play out.
- Understand what works and doesn’t based on that.
- Make informed decisions on changes based on this experience.
From my experience that’s the best way to avoid never-ending discussions about what people prefer, since there is always going to be people with different preferences. This way things can be tested and then take informed decisions that might still not make everyone happy, but at least will optimize for the majority + real user-case observations.
In this particular example, I would suggest to wait a bit until we get more users and categories and then check with everyone again in a couple of months how things are going and what issues are taking place.
How does that sound?
Yeah, we should at least await until migration before doing anything major, that will bring many users who can decide.
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Came across this cool discourse configuration today: https://community.viktor.ai
I really like the sidebar on the left. It allows for quick navigation and access to important links. Maybe an idea for this forum to.