Robert's OpenStreetMap Stuff (osm.mathmos.net)

Hi @ramthelinefeed thanks for the suggestion, but I don’t know if/when I’ll have time to look at the bus stop data you’ve highlighted. I’ve added it to may page of potential new data sources though. I don’t know if you’re aware, but there was a mass import of UK bus stops in various areas some time ago from a NAPTAN dataset. See NaPTAN - OpenStreetMap Wiki . I don’t know if this included NI or not, or how your data compares if it does. There were some conflation tools set up at the time, but I don’t know if any are still active. Possibly not. There are other conflation tools available now, and you may be able to use one of these yourself with the dataset.

Regarding your “Post Office”, I would say the first question is whether or not it is actually a functioning Post Office - i.e. a place where people can post letters and get other postal related services. If not, then I don’t think it should be tagged with amenity=post_office, since it’s not a current “amenity”. Perhaps historic:amenity=post_office, but then that doesn’t capture the recreation aspect.

If it is (and I could imagine in some working museums it might be – though how they handle having to use modern stamps I’m not sure), then I guess we’d treat it like a non-Post Office Ltd Post Office.

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That NaPTAN dataset only covers England, Scotland and Wales, not NI (not sure why - probably just Translink being useless).

It’s a while since I’ve visited the Ulster Folk Museum but I don’t remember being able to send letters from the post office. (Similar they can’t arrest you at their police station :upside_down_face:) I reckon a ‘historic:’ tag works fine (it’s clearly on the museum site, which is a big open air one)

@Robert_Whittaker one question I have about your Post Office tool that compares OSM data to POL data: how open do you refresh the OSM data? By chance I started working on the BT post code zone on 6th May, a day after the last refresh … but it hasn’t refreshed since, so I’m rather selfishly disappointed not to see my progress reflected in the tool yet :melting_face:

The updates to the post boxes and post offices are roughly weekly though there’s a manual step in the process, so can be longer between updates.

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‘Roughly weekly’ sounds cool to me. :melting_face:

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Official council data in my Rights of Way Comparison Tool has just been updated for:

I’ve also just added the monthly update of AEDs from The Circuit to the Defib tool.

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Hi Robert! Firstly a huge thanks for your excellent tools. I use them regularly and extensively (especially the main Survey Me! tool) to inform in-person surveys and find mistakes.

Over the past few months I’ve just come up with a (hopefully relatively small) feature request. But if not possible, don’t worry. :slight_smile:

On the map, when clicking on an icon, it brings up a pop-up/call-out (whatever you call them), e.g. " Missing Public Defibrillator: …(context)". For me, currently, the next thing I always do is check on Mapillary to see if there is already imagery in this area, since often a new survey may not be needed. Currently I have to find the location manually every time. However, since it’s possible to link to lat/long co-ordinates on the Mapillary map, and since you presumably already have these co-ordinates of that object/missing object (the location of the pin on your map), might it perhaps be possible to have an extra link in the popup/callout going to Mapillary map using the same co-ordinates? E.g. https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=52.05227&lng=1.1474&z=19 (the z=19 is just the zoom level of the map, useful to pinpoint the immediate surroundings)

Just a thought. Thank you again!

Yes, that’s a good idea. It’s not something I have need of, since I use the OSM Smart Menu that has lots of switching options (including Mapillary). However that doesn’t look to be being maintained now, and may not work with Crome any more. So it would probably be useful to build something into my tool itself.

Rather than putting it in the popups, it would probably make more sense to have it as a link on the map, like the current “Edit in OSM” controls just below the “+”/“-” zoom buttons. Then I could also add it to the maps on my other tools too. I don’t suppose anyone knows of an existing Leaflet plugin that would do this?

In the mean time, you could try the OSM Smart Menu, or maybe customise the JumpToOSM bookmarklet to point to Mapillary instead.

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Robert, thanks for the reply and considering this suggestion. Your idea of having it in the place you suggest would also be perfect. Either would work very well. Somehow I’d not heard of OSM Smart Menu or JumpToOsm, so thank you for pointing these out. I’ll look into them shortly. Once again thanks for all the work you put into your tools!

Turns out it was simpler than I thought to just hack the plugin I was using for the editing links. See what you think on Survey Me! now. You should get a new button below the +/- zoom controls at all zoom levels. You may need to do a hard refresh (ctrl+F5) to get it to load the new code. Currently it just links to the main OSM map and Mapillary. If any other links would be useful there, do let me know.

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Superb! Absolutely spot on, Robert. Thank you for looking into this, and so quickly. This is going to be a real help. I just did a quick test and it seems to work perfectly. Great addition to an already excellent tool. Thank you!

Can confirm it works great. Just used it to locate and add 3 care homes identified by your tool and shown on Mapillary. Thank you, this is a huge help!

I’d be interested in a map layer that highlights cycle routes please as I often plan my surveying along with a cycle ride, so would aid with this planning.

@Robert_Whittaker steady progress is being made on Post Offices in the BT post code area :slight_smile: OSM Post Office Progress in the 'BT' Postal Area

I have seen one which I cannot figure out, though: Enniskillen Post Office - your tool seems to think it is both simultaneously present and missing :grin:
https://osm.mathmos.net/postoffice/branch/176389

My eyes are probably just not seeing a typo, could someone else check this one?

What you’re seeing is because there are two different entries in the Post Office dataset for Enniskillen Post Office:

One of them gets matched to the OSM object, and the other one appears as unmatched.

I’m not sure what’s best to do about this. Probably I need to manually remove one of them from the tool…

Let’s tag both of them :smile: artworks-000040387261-ginbj0-t1080x1080|500x500

For anyone that’s interested, I’ve just updated the Public Rights of Way data in my progress tool for:

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Thanks for all these tools, Rob.

I’ve been looking at the UPRN inspector. Presumably green and blue markers indicated slightly different things - can you clarify?

Thanks.

Green markers are when all the UPRNs at that point are mapped in OSM, turquoise markers are for when the UPRNs are partially mapped, and blue is when none are mapped. (I’ve now added a description to the text on the page - I’m not sure why I didn’t include that at the time.)

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I have found the postboxes tool very useful. I am posting here to let users know that I have completed a project on postboxes in the W postal area. I have accounted for all the postboxes that had unmatched refs. Unfortunately it is quite a lot of work to update the website to reflect this, and I know Robert is very busy. (I have followed his instructions for letting him know the details.)

It is still useful to re-survey postboxes from time to time because there is a steady stream of changes to the network of postboxes. There are also some things I haven’t done. I haven’t checked all the postboxes to make sure that they are still there. And I haven’t used the Royal Mail’s Services Near You tool to find new postboxes that haven’t been mapped. (Warning - You cannot use that data to update OSM. You need to do a survey.) I did discover one new postbox and some additional refs on existing postboxes.

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