Does this only apply to markets where vendors attend their stalls, or do unattended markets also count? We have several of these where I map in the United States (see Way: Olde and Nu Treasures (1355563318) | OpenStreetMap as an example). Each vendor rents an area within a building and stocks it themselves, but customers pick items themselves and check out at a front counter like a shop. They usually are some mix of second-hand items like a flea market with local crafts (honey, art, jarred food, drop-shipped garbage). Should we instead tag such things as shop=* with marketplace=*?
The reason I preferred to use sells:*= / service:*:retail==main for these is I want to reserve marketplace= for attributes more unique to markets that are difficult to be named
Time: =night , =early_morning ( opening_hours= is not qualitative/characteristic, reliable, or easy enough)
Venue: =street , =hall , =square
More abstract categorization: =dry , =wet (possibly more for Asia)
That’s a fair question, but probably not for this thread: fundamentally, we’d need to decide whether it’s a shop or a marketplace, and then add subtags accordingly. Based on the description, I’m inclined towards a marketplace (+marketplace=variety or craft), but some novelty tagging should describe there’s a single checkout rather than traditional stalls.
The way I see it, nature of the goods traded are the most important property of marketplaces, and the one that most users would be interested in. There’s a close analogy with shop=*, where the primary tag describes what can be purchased there, and additional tags describe working hours, payment type, and other stuff.
As with shops, marketplace’s venue can be inferred from the feature it is associated with (a building, square or street). I’ll acknowledge that opening_hours and seasonal, as currently documented, do not capture the plethora of possibilities encountered in real world; but this is not something specific to marketplaces.
I’m not knowledgeable about dry and wet classification, although I’ve heard about the terms. Those can be potentially added to the list of values, if they consistently denote specific categories. I’ve also considered having “souks”/“bazaars” as a specific category, although it seems that variety would catch their semantics.
The current values for marketplace (see marketplace | Keys | OpenStreetMap Taginfo ) are a mix between products (flowers, livestock, seefood), location (plot, outdoor, openair) or type (intermittent, separate)
I think that the “marketplace” key is the right one for general informations on the market.
I’m not sure about the variety and consumer values, (the classification and description are good, but the words seems odd to me, but I’m not a native english speaker…)
The use of sells: is too specific to give this broad information. But I think that both keys may be used: for example marketplace=grocery + sells:meat=no
For the venue: if it is in a dedicated building, the building=marketplace already exists. for other places, maybe location=*/schoolyard/water/square... , indoor and/or coveredcan give the right information.
for the time, opening_hours is the right value (opening_hours="morning" is ok) , a marketplace=evening doesn’t give information of what to expect in it.
As far as i understand it, a dry market would be the same as marketplace=consumerand a wet market would be quite similar as marketplace=grocery; but if it is a really specific thing, I see no problem to have marketplace=wetmarket(only wet as value might be not clear enough)
Me neither. I think variety would be fine for an English speaker (cf. variety store) but I struggled to find an adequate word for (non-food) consumer goods in general. Yes, it’s possible to have electronics or clothing for more specialized ones. But the one in my vicinity has stalls (more like small shops) selling all kinds of hardware, then mobile phone accessories, home decor items, some clothing, … The closest equivalent would be shop=hardware, but it’s not broad enough. Or should that be simply marketplace=variety + sells:food=no?
Food served in eateries is the most important, but it uses cuisine= to be universal, not a direct =restaurant etc individually. I would further compare with =mall , where there are specialized malls (not only outlets, but really malls selling specific categories of items).
As with opening_hours= , inferring or implicit info is not sufficient or characterizing enough for the venue. =square and =hall are more unique to =marketplace than individual shops. To be precise, they mean it occupies the entire thing, or a significant part of it. It’s not merely being located there as with shops. Then you are treating them as context-dependent meaning.
=consumers seems to mean for consumers, the opposite of “wholesale market” in the sense of shop=trade discussed previously. It’s indistinguishable from =variety , and no shop= precedence. Or it’s confusing with “consumable”, which is actually a slightly better word against “durable” goods (yet confusing vs “perishable”).
