Ha ha - but we all know how to drive down here…not like those “northern islanders” 
I have also driven the Barry Way (with my Tvan behind me!) and I agree its way better than track! Unclassified at minimum…
This is a real track…
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Have you driven it at any other times of year?
While you say OSM captures what’s on the ground, you continually reference to formal designations to justify keeping it as a secondary route. I provided information that speaks to the actual conditions of the road, including and beyond my own experience, which was used to submit the edit.
My changeset was posted 6 months ago in the dead of winter, which is when we frequent this part of Victoria and similar parts of NSW. It rains a fair bit at other times of year which is when I experience it. We also used essentially every route from the south and north to access the major tourist attractions from Melbourne multiple times. Only this route required major edits in line with ability to use it, and all the available local recommendations for how to access our destinations and return safely (including the weather conditions when I was there). I have no problem with the Great Alpine Rd being a primary with a B designation even though it’s 1 lane but sealed in many parts (and we almost got slammed by a truck riding the center line) and I made no edits to that road.
Trip advisor was used to bring you additional viewpoints beyond my personal experience and beyond the relatively small AU OSM community. Others on the changeset also told you this road doesn’t rate secondary, nor even tertiary, but most with experience of it aren’t here to weigh in unless we wait another 6 months or more for somebody with experience of it to show up and comment. Therefore, I linked perspectives (including 5 star ratings from people who liked it) which are also on many other forums, as well as local recommendations from our frequent visits, as well as my personal experience with other drivers who were stuck with thousands in repairs from driving it in a stock standard car capable of safely passing over every other speed hump and C route in victoria, save this road.
Of all the roads in Victoria, and in this area in particular, this is the route that requires changes you seem unwilling to accept.
I agree it’s higher than track with other that have posted and already submitted those updates. However I don’t agree it’s secondary just because it has a formal C designation.
We have established it’s higher than track. Can you provide any perspective on what it should be as secondary, tertiary, or unclassified, as Steve came here for other first hand opinions?
In terms of the function it serves I would still say secondary but I spend a lot of time on these types of roads so they dont bother me. Its also full of campsites, tourist points, picnic sites etc.
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steve91 says secondary
tastrax says secondary
myself and AntBurnett say anything > track
shashp says track
Based on this we should tag it secondary.
@shashp When assessing a road’s suitability to drive on based on your vehicle type and experience, don’t inspect the highway=* tag, instead look at smoothness=, surface=, tracktype=* (which I’m happy to see used on a highway>track), 4wd_only=, width= as per Australian Tagging Guidelines/Roads - OpenStreetMap Wiki
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i already attempted to amend my edit and said anything less than secondary. Swavu also said on the changeset it doesn’t rate secondary nor tertiary. but i’ll agree to leave it and use my personal experience to know which routes to avoid.
not that i expect it to change anything but other secondary roads in this area are sealed two lane roads. this one is not. it doesn’t deserve the same heirarchy. it’s up to other mappers now.