As I said in the topic, just looking for someone with some general knowledge. Status, coverage, and quality of pt stops for example.
Did you mean to send it in the Bulgarian category? If you did mean, I can give you information but it would be good to know about which region we are talking about (or specific cities).
Yes, I did mean to ask the Bulgarian category. I’m just trying to get a general sense of how much work has been done in OSM in regard to PT data for the whole country. I would expect that some regions have more data and better data than others.
I already recognize your username @Dimitar155 from some stops 
Could you tell me about the approximate state of:
- Railways and their stops
- Tramways and their stops
- Coach lines and their stops
- Bus lines and their stops
If they are nationally complete, or which regions, or cities are complete?
All railways are mapped including halt stops. Railway routes are completely mapped, mapped train routes can be counted on one hand.
Tramways are present only in Sofia and they are completely mapped (stops and routes).
As far as I know coach lines are not mapped (except for Flixbus international routes which happen to pass through Bulgaria). Most major cities have their bus stations mapped although they may be missing the amenity=bus_station tag. I don’t think that there is a point in mapping them now since they will be overhauled in the (hopefully) near future.
Sofia: (Almost) all bus stops are mapped, there are a few new lines which are not mapped yet. The trolleybuses are up to date.
Plovdiv: The current data is very outdated, I’m slowly working on updating it.
Varna: Looks complete and up to date to me, @plamen can tell you more.
Haskovo: Should be completely mapped.
Burgas: seems to have most stops, lines are missing
Dobrich: stops are mapped, waiting for the new transport scheme.
Ruse: Looks fine at first glance, most likely needs to be checked and updated where needed.
Veliko Tarnovo: Looks fine at first glance, may be slightly outdated.
Gabrovo: Most stops are mapped, lines are not mapped.
Stara Zagora: Seems to be up to date, needs some fixes on some routes.
Kazanak, Sliven, Karlovo, Pleven: Some stops are mapped, can’t see any mapped routes.
Vidin, Vratsa and Montana: Nothing is mapped
Pleven: Should be up to date, newer lines may be missing.
There are definitely at least a dozen more cities which have their own bus network but I don’t know them of the top of my head but most likely they don’t have many mapped routes or stops.
Overall: some bigger cities are ok, others need some verifying, most need considerable updating/adding of information.
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Hello @dimitar155, as part of a project I work on I’m really interested in the topic as well. I’m completely new to OSM…is there any chance that we can comment outside of OSM?@Wulfmorn thank you for starting the topic!
Hello @BulgariaPT and welcome to OSM. I prefer to keep all OSM related communication in OSM. You can ask me here or in a private message on openstreetmap.org.
PT consists only of buses in Varna. Presently 50% of the routes are mapped as relations in OSM.
Most of the bus stops are mapped.
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This is a very strange name tag: name:1999-05-19--=Балкан
This bus stop has subway=yes
Thanks for finding these issues! Both are now fixed.
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I’m looking for inconsistencies in the bus stops. I found some … (lots)
There are 186 stops where name:bl is a copy of name. Its these ones.
Летище
Арда
бул. България
бул. България
бул. Прага
Автогара
Бялата вода
Бялата вода
Читалище Просвета
Дендрариума
Дендрариума
Детски стационар
Детски стационар
Елените
Емона
Езерово
Форт Нокс
метростанция Горна баня
метростанция Горна баня
Метростанция Горна баня
Метростанция Горна баня
Гара Горна баня
Гара Горна баня
Гара Горна баня
Хелена
Хотел Скай
Инцараки
Континентал
Континентал
кв. Карпузица
кв. Карпузица
кв. Манастирски ливади
кв. Манастирски ливади
Метростанция Ломско шосе
Метростанция Ломско шосе
Медковец
Метростанция Хаджи Димитър
Метростанция Хаджи Димитър
Метростанция Хаджи Димитър
Метростанция Мизия
Младост
метростанция Мизия
метростанция Мизия
метростанция Мизия
Музей на мечката - по желание
Музей на мечката - по желание
Околовръстен път
Метростанция Овча купел
Метростанция Овча купел
Палма
Феста Панорама
Парадайз
пл. Сточна гара
пл. Васил Левски
пл. Васил Левски
Поликлиника
Професионална гимназия по дизайн Елисавета Вазова
Професионална гимназия по дизайн Елисавета Вазова
Санаториум
Стадиона
ул. Свети Власий
Странджа
Свети Влас
Свети Влас Центьр
Трансферен автобус
Тихия кът
Тихия кът
Център кв. Филиповци
Център кв. Филиповци
Обръщало
ул. 759
ул. 759
ул. Брезите
ул. Брезите
ул. Буря
ул. Буря
ул. Буря
ул. Бялата чешма
ул. Детелина
ул. Детелина
ул. Драва
ул. Драва
ул. Г. Измирлиев
ул. Г. Измирлиев
ул. Кирил Христов
ул. Княжевска
ул. Княжевска
ул. Н. Хрелков
ул. Н. Хрелков
ул. Родопски извор
ул. Родопски извор
ул. Суходолски път - по желание
ул. Суходолски път - по желание
ул. Тодорини кукли
в.з. Люлин
в.з. Малинова долина
в.з. Малинова долина
ж.к. Дървеница
Златните мостове
ж.к. Овча купел 2
ж.к. Ботунец 2 - по желание
ж.к. Ботунец 2 - по желание
ул. Връх Манчо
ул. Урал
ул. Урал
ул. Инж. Георги Белов
ул. Инж. Георги Белов
ул. Бялата чешма
Център кв. Ботунец
Център кв. Ботунец
Църквата Св. Георги
Църквата Св. Георги
Супермаркет
Старата фурна
Старата фурна
Ул. Сан Стефано
Разклона за с. Долни Богров
Разклона за Д. Богров
Разклона за Д. Богров
Промишлена зона - по желание
Промишлена зона - по желание
По желание
По желание
пл. Централна гара
пл. Централна гара
пл. Сточна гара
пл. Сточна гара
пл. Руски паметник
пл. Руски паметник
пл. Руски паметник
пл. Руски паметник
пл. Орлов мост
пл. Орлов мост
Метростанция Опълченска
Надлез Надежда
Надлез Надежда
Надлез Надежда
Моста на Лесновска река
Моста на Лесновска река
Моста на Лесновска река
Моста на Лесновска река
Митница Суходол
Митница Суходол
Металика ООД
Металика ООД
Махала Япаджа
Махала Япаджа
Магистрала Хемус
Магистрала Хемус
кв. Овча купел
кв. Овча купел
кв. Горна баня
кв. Горна баня
Кулина Вода
Кантона
Кантона
Кантона
Кантона
Хотел Простор (закрита)
Хотел Простор (закрита)
Хотел Хемус
гара Захарна фабрика
гара Захарна фабрика
Езерото
Езерото
Читалище Просвета
Читалище Просвета
бул. Брюксел
бул. Брюксел
бул. Акад. Ив. Ев. Гешов
бул. Акад. Ив. Ев. Гешов
бл. 3 ж.к. Ботунец-1
Асеново
Асеново
Алана
16-ти ДКЦ
16-ти ДКЦ
115-то ОУ
115-то ОУ
Спирка
Спирка
Овощарски институт
Нестинарка
Начало кв. Гниляне
Надлез Надежда
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A similar case here, where name:ru is identical to name. Fortunatley just 2:
Кукери
Нишикли
Then there are 7 stops which seems to be the name of a bus line rather than a stop:
Koprivshitza - Plovdiv
Koprivshitza-Plovdiv
Koprivshitza-Plovdiv
Koprivshitza-Plovdiv
Koprivshitza-Plovdiv
Koprivshitza-Plovdiv
Koprivshitza-Plovdiv
These are for some reason in apostrophes:
“Рибарски Площад”
“Св. Св. Кирил и Методий”
“Фиш-Фиш”
“Фиш-Фиш”
These stops are written in latin alphabet. About half of them have Bulgarian names, and the same half also have name:en cloned from name:
Arda
Cacao Beach
Cacao Beach
Emona
Fort Noks
Helena
Hotel Sky
Intsaraky
Borovets BUS center
DSK BANK
Happy Bar | Sofia-Thessaloniki
Kuban
These stops are in latin, and lowercased:
bezden bogiovci
bezden bogiovci peturch
bogiovci petarch
And these names, in latin alphabet are not names at all, just words or names of other things:
Magura (tourist train)
Bus Stop
Bus Stop
Bus Stop
Bus stop
Flixbus
I also looked at name:en and found some weird stuff.
These are just descriptions, not names:
bus to Sapareva Banya (every 30-60 minutes)
Bus to Sunny Beach and Nessebar stops here every 40 minutes
Bus to Veliko Tarnovo
Tourist Mini Train (Nessebar)
Tourist Mini Train (Nessebar)
Turn spot
These stop names contain references to bus lines (should be relations):
Aleksandrovska (Б1, Б2)
BFU (30, 32, 61, 62, T2)
bl. 9 (12)
Bulair (4,8,12,15,211,T2)
Bulair (4,8,12A,15,211)
Burgas bakery (4,211)
Bus station Izgrev (1,4,211)
Bus station Izgrev (1,4,211)
Bus Station South (4,8,12,211)
Bus Station South (T2)
Bus Station West (16,18,30,32,61,62)
Bus Station West (4)
Debelt Str. (16,18,30,32,61,62,T1)
Dunav str. (T2)
ELPROM (4)
Herb pharmacy (4,5,7,12,16,18,25,T2)
Hotel Kosmos (12,15)
Ivan Vazov blvd. (4,7,8,16,18,25,211,T2)
Ivan Vazov blvd. (7,8,16,18,25,T1,T2,211)
Koprivshtica Str. (12,15)
Lukoil Gas Station (2A,4,7,12,25)
Maria Louiza 7 (T1)
Military Hospital (211,30,32,61,62)
Mladost sports hall (12A,15,30,32)
Naroden Yumruk (12A,15)
New post office (30,32,61,62)
Opera (Б1,Б2,Т2)
PGMEE (211,30,32,61,62)
SCT (12,15,30,32)
Sheynovo (T1,8)
Slaveykov bl.1 (12A,121)
Slaveykov bl.16 (11)
Slaveykov bl.16 (12)
Slaveykov bl.22 (121)
Slaveykov bl.55 (12A, 15, 30, 32)
Slaveykov bl.9 (11)
Slaveykov Bus station (12,12A,121)
Struga blvd. (2A,12A,121)
The Panteon (4)
Third clinic (4,8,12A,15)
Third clinic (8,12,15,211,T2)
Tih Trud (12)
Tourism college (4)
Trakia blvd. (12A,15,30,32)
Transportation Hospital (4,7,8,11,16,18,25,211,Т2)
Trapezitsa (121)
Trapezitsa (2A,12A,121)
Troikata (Б1,Б2,9,T1)
Tsar Petar (T1,9)
Vardar (7,12A)
These names are just generic places:
Airport
Airport
Airport (bus to Burgas)
Airport (from Burgas)
Centrum
Kindergarten
Kindergarten
These just they are what they are
Bus Station
Bus Stop
Bus stop
Bus Stop
Bus stop “Maliovica”
International names that are unlikely to be real
Probably transliterations sporadically introduced in tiny numbers from various languages:
Ônibus para Veliko Tarnovo (
name:pt)
Zastávka Burgas (name:sk)
Delfinárium (name:cs)
Katedrála (name:cs)
Zlaté Písky, Republika (name:cs)
Óváros (name:hu)
Centrum (name:pl)
Dworzec autobusowy południowy (name:pl)
Dworzec kolejowy (name:pl)
Lotnisko Burgas (name:pl)
Przystanek Autobusowy (name:pl)
Magasin Monsieur Bricolage (name:fr)
rue Jean de Lafontaine (name:fr)
Sankt Konstantin und Helena (name:de)
Stefan Stambolovo (name:de)
ul. Louis Eyer (name:de)
There are also 31 Romanian names.
There are also 2331 cases of int_name which seem to be latin script names. Very likely most of the 432 name:en names should be int_name.
I guess thats enough for this report 
Enjoy 
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No, I just overpassed all bus stops from Bulgaria and worked on them in Excel. You can probably overpass them with highway=bus_stop + <tag>
Sorry, I didn’t include anything more sensible to look them up with. I didn’t initially intend to make such a long list of things, but, hopefully, it will do some good. We can speak more about this on Monday, of course.
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Some clarifications:
I assume that should be name:bg? This is the accepted practice for names in Bulgaria: they should have name=*, name:bg=* (both in Bulgarian Cyrillic), int_name=* (transliterated name) and optionally name:en=*. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_names#Bulgaria and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_names#Repeating_name_with_language_specific_tag
These are descriptive names that might better be removed. Note that many bus stops don’t have a formal name, so “the Plovdiv stop” may be a valid name for a bus stop in Koprivshtitsa because that’s what people call it.
This is how names are usually written in Bulgarian, but the OSM community here has decided not to use quotes. The quote marks can be deleted.
Probably added by foreigners. name: should be in Bulgarian, so if they have name:bg, that can be copy-pasted into name: The latin script names can be moved into int_name if they are transliterations, and into name:en if they are in English.
Casing can be corrected. Note that English usually uses Title Case, while Bulgarian uses Sentence case for names (except person names). So name=Стара планина int_name=Stara planina but name=Иван Вазов int_name=Ivan Vazov
Descriptive names can be deleted. There was a lot of tagging for the renderer in Bulgaria in the past…
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There is a tag for the bus lines if the relations are not there yet - route_ref (Key:route_ref - OpenStreetMap Wiki). Otherwise a description=bus line towards Plovdiv would be better than nothing.
@rhhs Regarding this
I assume that should be
name:bg? This is the accepted practice for names in Bulgaria: they should havename=*,name:bg=*(both in Bulgarian Cyrillic),int_name=*(transliterated name) and optionallyname:en=*. See Multilingual names - OpenStreetMap Wiki and Multilingual names - OpenStreetMap Wiki
I think that duplicating the name:bg tag at name will be a source of mismatches and errors, and yes I meant bg not bl :). The name tag should be the local name, in the local language and script. Duplication means complication.
Its also a good idea if the int_name is only transliterations to latin script. So, letter by letter. Translations to name:en work best for places like “Cathedral” or “train station”, but not necessary for general places like town names.
The reason for duplication is explained in the link I gave earlier: Multilingual names - OpenStreetMap Wiki In most cases mappers will copy-paste the name from name to name:bg so I guess differences are rare. StreetComplete, for instance, automatically adds the entered name to both name and name:bg.
Letter-by-letter transliteration from Bulgarian Cyrillic to latin script is not possible: it has 30 letters, so some letters can only be transliterated using 2 latin letters. We use the official transliteration by the Bulgarian government, see Romanization of Bulgarian - Wikipedia Other languages using the Cyrillic script have their own transliteration rules. So name=Варна is transliterated int_name=Varna but is written in German like name:de=Warna. To make sure Bulgarian users of the map will get to see the name in their own language, name:bg=Варна is added.
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