Proposal to convert keys lst:diarienr, lst:nvrid to ref:SE:diarienr and ref:SE:nvrid

Why do you think “that” is applicable in this thread?

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All the tags that you wanted, want or will want to mass migrate.

In other words, you are supposed to stop doing any mass migrations as they lack community support.

Why do you say that?

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What is your evidence for “they lack community support.”?

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What falls under “Everything”?

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  1. What made you think, that someone in this thread acted “like” “a toddler going through the Why-phase” while not being “a toddler going through the Why-phase”?
  2. Is there a list or definition of “Why”-questions that should not be asked in the OpenStreetMap Community Forum?
  3. Is there a list or definition of “Why”-questions that can be asked in the OpenStreetMap Community Forum?
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Re 2: adding questions with answers already in the thread are example of questions that should not have been asked

And yes, last several questions that you asked are either answered or based on flawed assumptions and are therefore irrelevant.

I will reanswer this one: burden of proof is on person doing mass migrations

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  1. Because I’ve been in the community for 17 years. I don’t know everybody but I have developed a sence for what people like and not. I also stated that there could be exceptions.
  2. I don’t have a list that you can cross check. If you check this forum, other social media places and all edits in Sweden for some years, you will get an answer to that question. I will not provide you with one.
  3. You will not get a list, but I think everybody else, and probably also you, understands that it means the edits you’ve been doing during the latest weeks in Sweden changing misc. import data keys. I do not keep track of all of your edits and I prefers if it could stay that way.

Your questions annoys people. I guess you notice that. I don’t know if you understands why, but if you try to think what the person means instead of questioning every litte detail you would not get the same hostile response.

I think you are dedicated and persistent. If you find the right task you would be very valuable for any project. Please try to listen with the local community if you could agree with them to such task.

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This topic has run its course.

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Following the lack of community support and a DWG ticket I received, I have reverted all the ref:SE:nvrid, ref:SE:diarienr, and ref:SE:darienr(restored to correct spelling) tag changes by Tobias in Sweden and restored the previous situation. You can find the changesets here Changeset: 174148206 | OpenStreetMap and https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/174150054

Note that I left several tags unchanged, as I wasn’t sure whether those should be reverted or not. These are all the tags changed by @ilias
Those changesets can be found here: (Thank you for grouping them so nicely)
ref:SE:skolverket, ref:SE:scb, ref:SE:pts:postort, ref:SE:raa

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Are

  1. @Hidoo00
  2. @ilias
  3. @Tobias_Conradi
  4. @pangoSE
  5. @loffa
  6. @HuggeK

not part of “community”? (source: from https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/standardise-switch-from-ref-raa-to-refraa/136483/17 to https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/standardise-switch-from-ref-raa-to-refraa/136483/20)

What did that ticked contain?

Weren’t ref:SE:nvrid, ref:SE:diarienr also grouped nicely until your revert?

  1. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=ref%3ASE%3A
Count Key
2590 ref:SE:scb
2042 ref:SE:nvrid
1734 ref:SE:pts:postort
1588 ref:SE:diarienr
461 ref:SE:skolverket
199 ref:SE:raa
51 ref:SE:rikshållplats
29 ref:SE:fastighetsbeteckning
23 old_ref:SE:diarienr
12 old_ref:SE:nvrid
7 ref:SE:skola:skolenhetskod
7 ref:SE:skola:verkform
6 ref:SE:scb:cfar
6 ref:SE:kommun
4 ref:SE:lan
2 ref:SE:län
1 was:ref:SE:skolverket
1 ref:SE:raa:lamningsnummer
0 ref:se:pts:postort
0 ref:se:scb
  1. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Sweden&oldid=2914632

Keys found via https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=ref%3ASE%3A

Count Key Wiki article Wiki item formatter URL Note
2 590 ref:SE:scb Key:ref:SE:scb Item:Q628 2025-10-05 converted from Key:ref:se:scb
2 042 ref:SE:nvrid Key:ref:SE:nvrid Item:Q23184 Yes (since 2025-10-29) 2025-10-2x converted from different keys containing string nvrid/NVRID, as of 2025-11-01 tag2link not working, 2000+ NVRIDs stored using other keys, clean-up process halted due to threat by Data Working Group
1 734 ref:SE:pts:postort 2025-10-05 converted from Key:ref:se:pts:postort
1 588 ref:SE:diarienr Key:ref:SE:diarienr - 2025-10-2x converted from different keys, not complete yet, stored using other keys, clean-up process halted due to threat by Data Working Group
461 ref:SE:skolverket Key:ref:SE:skolverket Item:Q23214 No 2025-10-05 converted from Key:ref:se:skolverket
199 ref:SE:raa Key:ref:SE:raa Item:Q621 Yes (since 2023-05-23) 2025-10-09 converted from Key:ref:raa
51 ref:SE:rikshållplats Key:ref:SE:rikshållplats -
29 ref:SE:fastighetsbeteckning
23 old_ref:SE:diarienr
12 old_ref:SE:nvrid
7 ref:SE:skola:skolenhetskod
7 ref:SE:skola:verkform
6 ref:SE:scb:cfar
6 ref:SE:kommun
4 ref:SE:lan
2 ref:SE:län
1 was:ref:SE:skolverket
1 ref:SE:raa:lamningsnummer
0 ref:se:pts:postort
0 ref:se:scb

What does the unused ref:SE:darienr has to do with “correct spelling”?

Source:

  1. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=darienr https://archive.ph/es6qw
  2. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:SE:darienr https://archive.ph/5nSoD