Currently, both “mount carmel” and “ramot menashe” are improperly tagged as natural=ridge.
This seems to cause user confusion.
- in #183536892 a user deleted the Ramot Menashe “ridge”. On a few occasions I almost deleted the carmel ridge thinking it’s an error. It looks like an out of place line.
- In #179566206 A user added the “mount carmel” wiki data tag to the “Rom Carmel” (the peak of mount carmel) node. Generally speaking the node is a mess, some languages refer to Rom Carmel (the peak) while others refer to Mount Carmel (The whole mountain)
After looking in the Wiki it’s still not clear to me how to properly tag the general “mountain” rather than the specific peak.
Advice?
If you think the the natural=ridge tag is inappropriate, please clarify why.
If the problem is the lack on knowledge by some users, than that will not be resolved by using a different tag, right?
natural=ridge says a ridge is a “hill with a continuous elevated crest”. I believe this corresponds to what I marked purple in this photo:
w996205165 and w996203102 are straight, arbitrary, nonphysical lines that even go through valleys and aren’t ridges. Mount Carmel likely has quite a few ridges, but they are not mount carmel in of themselves and they are currently not tagged.
I should mention the reason I am interested in this:
Some broad geographical areas in Israel cannot be found in the OSM DB, for example: “בקעת הירדן”. If you’re lucky your search might hit some corresponding administrative boundary relevant to the area but that isn’t the case for all of them. In IHM some of these queries hit a Wikipedia article but not an OSM feature.
I think someone put an imaginary ridge on Mount Carmel/The Ramot Menashe Hills as a stopgap solution and I’m trying to figure out a better solution.
Maybe you can make sense of this Mountain ranges vs ridges section of the wiki.
It does refer to some cases where ridges are linear.
