popular names on shop=bakery - brands, common names or descriptive

Communities Deutschland (Germany)
1

Is any of names below an unwanted generic name (like amenity=restaurant name=Restaurant)?
Or a valid common name (like amenity=restaurant name=Bamboo), without an uniting brand?
Or a valid brand?

Backshop
Bäckerei Schmidt
Bäckerei Schneider
Büsch
Goeken backen
Hinnerbäcker
Nur Hier
Oebel
Schneider

I am asking as I want to improve https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/ and I lack local knowledge for Germany. Data from this project are used for example by iD and Vespucci. Improving it may help mappers using this editors.

2

I think “Backshop” just means bakery, so it is not a name that should occur in OpenStreetMap.

3

Luckily not :wink:

Nr. 2+3+5, “Bäckerei” means bakery

AFAIK No!

The other names seem to be proper names of the shop owners/operators.

Backshop is “DEnglish” for Bäckerei and may be a valid name element only in conjunction with a proper name.

Regards
geow

4

It is not common but there are cases like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4908694234 where “Backshop” appears to be used as a descriptive name. See http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/IEe

5

Agreed, so I wrote “may be a valid name element only in conjunction with a proper name.”

6

These names can all occur, seems to be typical bakery names in Germany.

7

“Nur Hier” is a Franchise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchising) with lots of stores in Hamburg.
But I think “Nur Hier” is still the name visible to their customers.

8

As the first step Backshop was removed from list of potentially valid names as a generic name (despite its popularity) - thanks for a help! (this is not something that is directly visible to mappers using iD or Vespucci but helps in making the index better)

Commit is in https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/commit/9baa4f2af9c1f5d5ab85718a20be400ce9e8913a

Nur Hier looks like a brand ( https://nur-hier.de/ ), I am unsure about Bäckerei Schneider - there is https://www.schneiders-baeckerei.de/unsere-baeckereien.html?adress=Siegen but it covers only some of this names

Büsch may be brand used by EDEKA, but I am also not sure.

Other look like a common names without uniting brand and will be also processed. Thanks for the help!

9

Schneider is an incredibly common name in Germany so it’s very likely these are all independent bakeries that just happen to share the name.

10

Büsch seems to be a subsidiary of EDEKA Rhein-Ruhr, originally a family run company, acquired in 2002. → https://verbund.edeka/rhein-ruhr/%C3%BCber-uns/produktion-eigenmarken/b%C3%BCsch/