I was part of a team that installed a colour-coded walking and cycling wayfinding network in Fort William this past month. Six routes, roughly 20 miles, Corpach to Upper Achintore and
Torlundy to Glen Nevis. Fingerposts at numbered junctions, coloured markers on
lamp posts in between.
I work for Marked, who designed and installed it for HITRANS. We’re looking to add
the cycle routes to OSM as lcn route relations, and the fingerposts as
guideposts.
Scope:
Manual editing, JOSM/iD, one account (MarkSmithOrchy).
Relations over ways already in OSM. I will need to split some ways where a route starts, ends or turns part-way along one.
Only routes signed on the ground. Nothing planned-but-unbuilt.
Source is the signage. Every changeset tagged #marked_fortwilliam and linked to the wiki page.
You initially added the pavement as a cycleway but unless something has changed since your Mapillary images a year ago. there’s no blue signs or even a wide pavement to make it suitable for shared use. However part of it is a core path meaning cycling would technically be legal.
So you may want to ensure that cycling is indeed allowed on the paths and routes in this project and they are correctly tagged in OSM as you do the mapping excercise.
Sigh. That seems to be the same person whose edits were under discussion here.
I think that everyone (now) recognises that the Highway Code does indeed say “Thou Shalt Not Cycle on the Pavement”, but that people in the UK have used bicycle=dismount to indicate “you can push a bicycle here if you dismount” (something that isn’t always true on designation=public_footpath in England and Wales).
So (as with most of Pete Owens’ bicycle=no edits) bicycle=no on the roadside footpath is at best misleading, but whether it’s actually yes (via the Core Path designation) or dismount (via the highway code) is an interesting question.
Yea I think you are correct Ginaro - I added (wrongly) as a shared use path, as when I cycled it I thought the shared use carried on from the A830 from the Distillery roundabout, but looking at Mappillary there weren’t any shared use signs, and like you say there are some tight parts so it can’t be designated as shared use
But I did see people cycling when I was there, and they were all using the path. No chance would I recommend people cycle on the road there, and as you say it is designated as a core path with Banavie Primary School located halfway along
In the end, for the wayfinding project we decided not to include it and instead highlight the canal as the link between Banavie and Corpach
My background is Transport Engineering and phyical wayfinding, so I’m newer to the world of digital mapping, but we’re talking to Highland Council and Hitrans about a project to more clearly store and define what they are designating walking and cycling routes/infrastructure is and defining this as a clear dataset that’s coherent across their own open data portal, on-street signage and OSM. So if you have any more thoughts on this or see any more unclear situations, happy to flag to them
