Object:housenumber=* - can it be used for parcel lockers?

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In my area parcel lockers have no addresses, but to make them more findable companies list the nearest address on their description page.

Say, of nearest apartment building.

Some people want to tag this info, and Key:object:* - OpenStreetMap Wiki seems to fit well

object:housenumber=* The house number the POI is next to/most close to.

etc

But there is an annoying wrinkle: it has “Used to describe the position of man-made features where nothing will be delivered at” in description, and had it for a long time

Would it be OK to drop that restriction?

Or engage in sophistry that things are not delivered to parcel locker, just that parcel locker is an intermediate location?

Or should we add add:housenumber to object that has no address and copy nearest address (which would break geocoding in annoying way)?

this is triggered by Add `address` field to `amenity=parcel_locker` in HU by gy-mate · Pull Request #1338 · openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema · GitHub

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Maybe

Used to describe the position of man-made features where nothing will be delivered at

can be replaced with

Used to describe the position of man-made features without own real address

or

Used to describe the position of man-made features where stated address cannot be used for deliveries

(because if you try to send parcel to such address it will arrive at house/apartment building where address is actually assigned)

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Would it be OK to drop that restriction?

delivered by whom? IMHO you can remove it because it is not related to the feature and you cannot verify it, because to make this sentence true, you must not just verify that someone doesn’t deliver something there, but that nobody ever delivers something there, which is impossible to prove :)

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Agreed. object:*=* is the best tagging approach for such objects imo. The restriction in the wiki should be removed.

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I’ve opened that PR because Hungarian law defines house numbers as the following:

122. § 6. house number: a marker used to uniquely identify the plot of land

So house numbers in Hungary aren’t assigned to houses, but to the plot of land they stand on. (See this empty plot for example that also has a house number.)

Areas occupied by parcel lockers are most often sublet by the owner of the building that stands on the same plot. (See this AlzaBox info page.) So we think that the address of that building also applies to the parcel locker and addr:* should be added to them—at least in Hungary.

I’d be happy to change the PR and make this preset regional (if needed) as I don’t know about other countries’ (e.g. Poland’s) laws.

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In Poland at least inPost is reusing addresses of nearest address and lockers are not having own addresses.

Iff in Hungary parcel lockers have actually own dedicated addresses then it makes sense to use addr: for them

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From the discussion it sounds like this is the exception rather than the rule. I don’t think it is a good idea to encourage use of addr:* tags through presets here.

See Are addr:* tags for postal addresses only, or for locations in general? - #43 by Fizzie-DWG

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in iD presets it is possible to introduce addr: tags for parcel lockers but keep it contained to Hungary

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Nothing special about iD there JOSM/Vespucci presets can do that too, the JOSM support has been present since 2 years or so.

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