(Now closed) Voting is now open for the proposal to add the Translate extension to the OSM Wiki

lectrician1 · 2022-04-25T13:44:34.075Z

You can now view and vote on the proposal to add the Translate extension to the OSM Wiki:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Add_Translate_extension_to_Wiki

SomeoneElse · 2022-04-25T17:56:14.371Z

I’m not sure I understand what is being proposed well enough to vote yet, but perhaps it would be possible to clarify (somewhere - not necessarily here) whether all the listed cons apply if a translated version of a page is excluded from this extension?

Some text suggest it is optional per page, yet the cons suggest it isn’t.

mmd · 2022-04-25T19:51:42.805Z

The wiki page doesn’t mention any costs that might arise from the use of third-party translation services (I’ve noticed that Microsoft translation is mentioned somewhere in the extension config files).

Has this topic been considered?

TomH · 2022-04-25T20:04:44.540Z

mmd:

The wiki page doesn’t mention any costs that might arise from the use of third-party translation services (I’ve noticed that Microsoft translation is mentioned somewhere in the extension config files).

I thought this was an extension to assist in manual translation of wiki pages, not a machine translation tool?

lectrician1 · 2022-04-25T20:06:38.712Z

One can say none of the cons apply. You should probably compare this to the systems currently used in the Analysis section to see the differences.

mmd · 2022-04-25T20:06:54.275Z

The only reference I found was:

Auto-suggested translations based on other translations made on this wiki and machine-translation services (this greatly decreases translation time).

So it could be both?

lectrician1 · 2022-04-25T20:09:04.465Z

@mmd Yes, I am actually mistaken on this part. The developer of the extension clarifies here that machine translation can only be provided if you have an API key to a translation service. Wikimedia has had translation services donated to them but otherwise it costs money.

@SomeoneElse
The other things that the developer mentioned, as I responded to, is probably going to result in a rewrite and revote of the proposal.

TomH · 2022-04-25T20:10:21.808Z

I would also just point that installing extensions in the wiki, or indeed any software for OSM services, is a matter for the operations and administration teams so any vote by wiki users could only be considered as advisory.

lectrician1 · 2022-04-25T20:11:24.037Z

Okay, closing vote now, as Minh has just agreed. Hopefully we can get a much better proposal and response.