I reopened some where it was easy to check if something was changed in OSM Data, but i´m not a native speaker of arabic, which a lot closed notes are, so it took pretty long to translate every note with google, and the translation look like it could be wrong.
Does someone want to help checking this closed notes if they really should have got closed, or should we just reopen all the notes, because he closed so many, so it´s likely he didn´t understand what the note function does?
While searching for a good place for a screenshot i found another user, that also closed a lot of notes without comment. Samaacairo30 | OpenStreetMap . But he also created notes, that got closed by NadaSharaby, so i´m not sure if these are the same users.
No, my English is not so good and i didn’t want to discuss days long because he can’t understand what i mean, because I did not write it understandable enough. Usually i reopen single notes around my home with a comment why it was closed without comment if I can’t find an edit and the note isn’t already fixed. That’s also what i wanted to do when I received the email about him closing a note I had commented, but looking in the note tab, there was a long list with closed notes all back 3 hours from when i first looked there.
I waited until now for some other reopening the notes or a block of the user by someone reporting him (because a lot of users should have received a email), but there are still a lot closed notes. The problem I have with closed notes is that streetcomplete photos are deleted after some time if the note had some. If someone want to solve the months 2 months later when searching for unfixed closed notes he could fix, he sometimes needs to go on survey again although someone been there before.
Is Nada Sharaby a company name where both those users are working? Samaacairo30 | OpenStreetMap has ‘Nada Sharaby’ set as their company on their user profile.
All changes by that user and should just be summarily reverted and the note changes should be undone. Very likely for Samaacairo30 as well, but I haven’t looked at that user in detail.
Hello,
in my opinion, the two user accounts are very strange.
You can also find pretty good overviews regarding their OSM notes here:
I think this should be reported to the DWG, and then I would at least suggest that all notes be reverted to the state they were in before the changes made by the two.
If anyone has information they want to add or things they want us to do please email the DWG as per that block and we’ll see the update on the ticket and act accordingly.
Edit: I was about to ask “ticket number” but I see it’s been created as an issue, so it doesn’t have one yet. I’m sure that someone will pick it up shortly.
If you raise an issue, you don’t get a ticket number until an OTRS ticket is created. If you email data@openstreetmap.org you get one by return of email. “vandalism” reports come straight to us, unlike some others that go via the admins.
Good question, I don’t see any response email in my inbox. I’m pretty certain that I pressed the send button.
(Sent it via the ‘vandalism report’ form on the OSM user page.)
الرجاء مساعدتي حول البيانات التي قمت بتحريرها على الخريطه اكتشفت انها قد تكون مسيئه لأشخاص الرجاء مساعدتي لحذفها ومحوها من الموقع
Translated with Google: “Please help me with data I edited on the map. I discovered it might be offensive to some people. Please help me delete and remove it from the site”
If anyone has any comments for the DWG please email data@openstreetmap.org with a subject line of “[Ticket#2025091610000639]” followed by the username. There may be more related accounts, either already existing or created in the future.
For example, this new account from last night already shows a similar pattern at the very beginning, with many notes saying “The place has gone or never existed”: OSM note activities of Doom5
I’m not sure if they simply have absolutely no idea what they are doing and are somehow trying to ‘fix’ the mess they created? They are creating tons of ‘does not exist’ notes for objects they themselves added (with the other now banned accounts). Is that what organic maps does when you try to delete an object in the app and they just try and try again because their ‘deletions’ don’t appear to have an effect?
(That might be giving them too much benefit of the doubt and at this point the distinction doesn’t really matter anymore.)
They also tend to create the same duplicate objects over and over again.
Should I continue listing the accounts here in the forum, or send them to DWG by email? In this case, the bot has apparently already closed all the notes again because it recognized them as duplicates.
Please email data@openstreetmap.org with a subject line of “[Ticket#2025091610000639] New anon note adder” followed by the new name in the subject, and whatever other information you’ve got in the body of the email.
With regard to general “tidying up” in the area, an overpass query like this might be useful. I’ve deleted some “obviously non-existant” and duplicate features (see this changeset and the ones immediately preceding it), but there are many more. Problems include:
Map edits (not just notes) by the accounts mentioned in this thread.
Obviously misplaced data (typically things in the middle of the road).
Duplicate POIs left by MAPS.ME users as personal markers, often miscategorised - sometimes many for the same physical object.
Obviously invalid data such as historic=castle where there clearly isn’t one.
The one thing that links them all is MAPS.ME. In fairness to the person behind NadaSharaby et al, they may be frustrated by the poor map quality in the area and notes saying “this place does not exist” might have started out as an entirely valid attempt to point out the (many) invalid POIs in the area.
One thing that might be useful is if other local mappers (perhaps @Tatfahren ?) can try and message them asking what they are trying to do in their own language. We have had messages in response to e.g. this block but they are only (in Arabic) “Please help me” - any attempt at further conversation has failed.
Edit: Conversation has got a bit further. It appears that they are frustrated with the poor quality of data that they see in this area. They’re using MAPS.ME, which will probably never update, so they’ll probably never see it improve. I have suggested that they post in the Africa forum.
