If a contributor decides to mute someone, does the second party get some kind of indication that they’ve been muted?
Does muting apply to changeset comments?
Do you meant muting at Discourse, at osm.org or both?
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Main website, seeing as I posted in the forum “For everyone who needs help with OpenStreetMap”.
Going based on the message you get when you hover over it, it’s only for messages. You can’t mute notifications from a certain user on changesets from the looks of it, which is most likely intentional considering what they’re for.
I would say that this forum also is part of OSM and also has a mute function
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There is a specific section for discussion of this site’s matters.
well, it is also common that people are confused and ask for help or complain in utterly irrelevant locations
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I believe the answer is no and no.
The only thing I know one can do is ‘unsubscribe’ from from a CS thread’s comments, so say a mapper gives a contentious comment on the CS, you bite your tongue and hit the unsubscribe. No more messages for that thread in your mailbox, and I use a OSM only email address. If ever divorcing OSM…
That all said, vaguely remember to have seen you can mute a specific Homo Sapiens who likes to eat at you, so looked and indeed “Mute this User”, but think this is on the PM front.
Ignoring CS comments is a rather certain way of asking for blocks…
(The kind of comments that ask for clarification and such)
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It’s you who appears confused.
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This needs to be amended. There should be an indication purely to not waste the time of the muted contributor when sending messages that will never be received,.
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Then there appears to be something temperamental with changeset comments. I send a few with no response, but if I chase it up with a direct message they almost always reply.
Err… Yes. That’s what my query was about.
Wouldn’t it be great… undeliverable :o)), but somehow don’t think it to be a good idea to give muting feedback and you than reposting that on the forums, As the wiki says, give the recipient a week time and then if no reponse, feel free to take it a level up.
Last week tried to sent an email to someone in an outside agency, 1 kb, slowly the sending counter sat there and the message on the screen said 'your message is 1Kb, the allowed size is 0Kb and then getting a mail from the postmaster that delivery had failed.
With a DWG hat on, I don’t have any recollection of people complaining about being muted (as noted above, they likely wouldn’t know) but there are quite a few complaints of the type “X is always pestering me” or “I keep telling Y to do things properly but they never do”. In both cases, sometimes the complaint is valid and sometimes it definitely isn’t. I’m not the least bit worried about contributors of the first type not knowing they’re muted, but am worried that recipients of the second type sometimes miss out on valuable information and that can actually make it harder for other people to map things**.
I’d almost always suggest that “how to map things better” information makes more sense in changeset discussion comments rather than private messages, since (a) it lets other people know about the issue and (b) people are generally more polite in public messages rather than private ones.
Some people do use throw-away email addresses for services, some have changed emails so that their sign-up email isn’t monitored, some are using email services that for whatever reason deliver these messages to spam, etc…
Yes, but hopefully (see above) only if actually justified, for example as a way of telling someone that their email might be broken.
Generally, a bit of “assume good faith” and “make allowances for people who may be new and/or may be communicating in a language not their native one” goes a long way.
… and that was an excellent example of a comment that wasn’t helpful! It was a reply to a comment that, while vague, was entirely true and that strand of the conversation demonstrated perfectly that what might be “obvious” to one party may not be obvious to the other.
** as an example, let’s imagine the “thing to do properly” was “add buildings in vaguely the right place and square the corners of the rectangular ones”.
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Who suggested they were?
It’s disappointing you think those who’ve been muted should be made aware of it. It works well on the likes of twitter/nextdoor etc.
Hmm… I went out of my way to explain to someone who was in error how they were wrong & gave examples so they can avoid being wrong in the future.
Unsure how you can claim:
is “entirely true”
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which part of that comment is not true?
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