hello people,
Is it possible to navigate as moped?
And what is the best device to do that
And how to setup.
I live in the netherlands and moped is not allowed on bycicle tracks in city only outside
OsmAnd does moped routing.
Would that fit your use case?
Hello i installed osmand on my iphone
And choosed moped.
But then it sends me over 80km/h ways
Can you check if the cycleway you want to (and are allowed to) ride on is tagged with moped=designated/yes? If not, OsmAnd doesn’t know you are allowed to drive there (as cycleways default to bicycles only) and sends you on the road instead. In that case, you or someone else needs to tag it accordingly, and then you’ll need to wait for the next map update in OsmAnd.
Ill go check,
But are there devices that can run osmand?
Because i don’t want fitt my iphone on my scooter.
It damages my camera because vibration
This would need a little more attention from Osmand because if there’s a distinction between motorcycle and moped navigation (i.e max speed), then there should be a different icon for that. In my country, moped = motorcycles, 80 km/h speed limit is only a mere suggestion.
Moped is in netherlands 45km/h
And not allowed on bycicle tracks. Only outside city
Is this also possible in openstreedmap?
I really want a navi device on my moped
You could absolutely create a map using OSM data that would work that way on Garmin devices, but if one does not already exist (and I suspect it won’t) you’ll have to create that yourself, by downloading OSM data and applying a set of rules (that you’ve created) to it that converts it into something so that one of Garmin’s built-in routing methods will route the way you want.
This might, however, be more work than you’re looking to do…
Looks interesting.
But is there a tutturial hoe to sett the correct data?
And what are reccomended devices
On a pushbike, I use one of these. They’ve been around for ages, so second-hand ones are likely available for much less than the listed new price.
I don’t think that there is a tutorial as such. For the maps that I create, I did it using “osm-tags-transform”. I did write a bit of information here (search for " Creating maps of a different area yourself"), and there’s a readme here, but not a lot of detail.
The main script is here, and the line that does the conversions that I use is this one. The actual transformation script is here, but yours will need to be much simpler than that - just look at tags on OSM ways to see if a road can be used by a bromfiets or not, and set OSM tags accordingly.
Another option of course may be a cheap second-hand Android phone to run OsmAnd on - you wouldn’t need a data contract if you downloaded software (and data) via wifi.
In the Netherlands the cycleway with traffic_sign=NL:G12a, designated for moped must have a moped=use_sidepath (aqua) on the carrigeway, for good routing. (do not route over aqua for moped)
Not all data on carriageway is complete.
moped=no red, could also be on a carriageway because of a C sign in some places, but also wrongly tagged which should be use_sidepath.
Also not all G12a are on OSM tagged.
overpass you can drag the map and push “uitvoeren” to see your location.
In the Netherlands, we have a preset (Josm) to set use_sidepath next to a G12a.
OC for one click.
But also for setting a G12a cyclway.
We have a traffic_sign data base that we can use, when only set RVVcode G12a.
In QGIS you can compare OSM use_sidepath with OSM NL:G12a, if both tags are within, say, 10 meters.
Even you can compare the NDW trafficsign with the OSM way NL:G12a.
I did this some time back with static files.
This is where all NDW G12a trafficsigns, that where further away then 6 meters from way with traffic_sign=NL:G12a, (purple) probably I should set is to 10 meter.
orange G12a
aqua moped=use_sidepath
I also did 5 and 3.5 meter compare.
This is a one men control, we do not have a trafficsign api, which we can use.
@PeeWee32 made a Qgis cloud site.
He could build in moped=use_sidepath but also mofa,bicycle, foot, to compare.
A quick view, there is a lot to do.
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Ok and how can i use this on a garmin device
I was more or less answering this sentence.
That not all 80 km/h ways has the right tags.
And must be tagged first in OSM, then, when you use any kind of device the data routing is better for moped.
The compare is only for where to look for mistakes and addition. You and others need to tag this first in OSM.
Ok thanks for helping
Motorriders use often a second smartphone device (second hand) on there motorcycle with no simcard, working with offline navigation and put there Iphone in there pocket.
If they need online data, they use the iphone hotspot to get the data.
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Maybe https://kurviger.com/ might be something to navigate as well? But its more targeted for motorcycles, not mopeds. And some smartphone with a proper mount (Sp connect, ram, for example) and lets go.
Maybe make sure there is no optical image stabilisation in your smartphone, because the vibrations may lead to a malfunctioning image stabilisation.
In the Netherlands, kurviger is not good for moped. There is too much difference.
We have a lot of G12a cycleways for moped. And traffic_sign C13 C15 C9.