<!-We are a California non-profit retirement community on a 31 acre campus in Los Angeles county. Though Google has our private roads and pathways showing on their lidar maps, they are not labeled. I’ve included a PNG file showing the roads and pathways, but all but one of the access points/gates are locked and not accessible by the public. To come on campus they must go through the main gate on Bonita Avenue near the 895 E Bonita Avenue, Pomona, CA 91767, though the west side of that driveway is in the city of Pomona, the right side is in Claremont (91711).
Nonetheless, we want to develop an on-campus walking map the enable people to find individual cottage and building addresses on campus. We actually have the street centerline data for most of the roads/pathways, but we’d like to make sure it is updated to what is reflected on a PNG mapMSAG Private roads and pathways.
How or from whom can we get some help in loading our streets onto OSM?-
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If you provide more details on this thread, a volunteer may be able to help you. It looks like to a degree your development is already mapped on OSM. You may consider adding address data to each building? To do so, click the link above and then click “edit” at the top of the screen.
Note that it seems your PNG has not been attached as expected.
Agreed. There certainly seems to be a start in the area with the tennis court (as marked), south of East Bonita Avenue, although I was interested to see that there is currently a gate marked only for traffic leaving the campus at that point. By marking all the Service Roads as Private, adding gates with relevant tags to the appropriate points of the Service Roads where they meet the public highways, adding building addresses etc, as Xvtn suggests, I think you will be well on the way. Adding the name of (the section of) the campus to the Residential Area(s) would be another small task. If yours is a secure, gated community, you will want to add the surrounding fences/ walls/ pedestrian turnstiles (if they exist - example) etc. too.
The OSM map has only the driveable roads and pathways and they are unlabeled and missing a few segments. There are two driveable pathways that are not generally accessible to the public but that are essentially walkways that emergency vehicles can drive on (access through key access gates to the public roads). There are dozens of other walkways (most with their own names like “Bamboo Lane” or “Turnabout Lane”) throughout the complex. We had a student intern from a local college (Cal Poly, Pomona) geocode all of our buildings and pathways, but she used Esri toolset. We converted them to KML, but there’s a lot of data and I’m not sure how to decipher it and she graduated and is no longer available. I think we have most of what we need in KML form, but I don’t know how to upload it to OSM or how to add or correct information once we see it on an actual map.
I believe the JOSM editor can handle most GIS formats, including the ESRI formats, possibly with the use of a plugin. You’ll be able to re-use the geometry information as-is, but converting the rest of the information to OSM tags may take some work – it seems like every ESRI user has their own data model.
Should you not have come across them yet, two things may be useful:
The tag highway=pedestrian may help with your drivable pathways;
and
the key routing:entrance (which I have only just discovered) may help couriers etc. go to the right place first time.
Now, this might be a heretical thought: because your area is relatively small, instead of trying to work with all those geocodes and deciphering the KML data, would it actually be quicker to go into the Map, and start editing, using the aerial view provided, your .png map and local knowledge?
I haven’t been able to see the satellite view on OSM which would be our preferred way to go, though I’ve got some learning to do about using and editing in OSM.
For a relatively small area like this one, rather than learning how to use an advanced editor like JOSM, one option is to manually transfer information from whatever ESRI viewer you are using into the ID editor.
@MSAG_Webmaster I recommend that you navigate to your complex on osm.org, click “edit”, try making a few simple edits, then let us know here how it went?
I’d like to clarify that OSM is in no way, shape or form associated with Google. If you have an issue with Google Maps, you have to contact someone else.
It is only visible when editing (at least on OpenStreetMap), and there it is the default, so you really can’t miss it.
There are tools that might be able to do the upload, though they are quite complex and you’d have to take into account the Import/Guidelines - OpenStreetMap Wiki. Perhaps you can make some small edits manually and see how it goes?
In any case, welcome to OSM! Being able to improve what matters to us is a core feature of this project.
I have started to figure out how this whole thing works and have successfully been able to add a short footpath segment to my map. There is a lot of nuance (e.g. sidewalks next to streets, crosswalks, etc.) that I have yet to figure out. I’m looking for a video tutorial that focuses on adding and editing line segments (e.g. how to add a segment to an existing footpath), but I’ll keep chipping away with my trial and error approach.
This is fabulous! I’ve been in the business for over 50 years (I wrote my first program, a payroll program, in Fortran IV in 1969, so you can do the math about how old I am) and have dabbled in open source solutions (had to get on the IBM/Microsoft train for mainstream business solutions), but this community is the most helpful I’ve ever encountered. I still have a lot to learn about the nuanced edits to buildings, roadways, and footpaths, but OSM and JOSM are marvelous tools. I just need to practice and experiment and should be able to figure it all out.
I have a question about correcting a building shape on the OSM map. For some reason, there were two independent and detached cottages that were joined with what looks like a breezeway cover into one building. I can’t figure out how to separate the one building into two. Is there a JOSM tool that can do that?
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