no, nada claro.
(Wikipedia) Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a type of informal fallacy where adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing something that the target person is about to say.
Iām not saying this because is Mario (in fact, would strongly insist as not acceptable even against someoneās I donāt like; if we tolerate it, them it becomes an acceptable norm) but itās not the first time fallacious argument pop up here in a way that is special kind of ad hominem, poisoning the well.
While the mere fact of arguments having fallacies doesnāt make it untrue (e.g. āargument from fallacyā), reasoning based on fallacies are invalid. And this kind of invalid argument does not depend necessarily on evidence, because it is how evidence (if any evidence at all) is used in a way that anything can be proved. Itās like saying ā2 + 2 = 5ā by using sum ā+ā or ā=ā wrong.
Iām not as upset with you, @Lewatoto, nor with DWG member in another thread, but I really am with fallacies pooping up as if theyāre proof of anything and it seems itās going for some time. And things are coming to a point that anyone, just because they agree with Mario, now becomes also invalid? If we accept this absurdity (e.g. association fallacy) then anything can be used without need to go down in evidence. I mean, it becomes to a point any way any external organization sponsoring things in the regions to deal with criticism (the ones not trivially resolvable) would mean opting not to solve issues but to instigate groups in the region against each other. From this point of view, care must be taken to stop wasting time.
Evidence/facts are often what people disagree with (and this makes it necessary to go after more context), but going as far as structure of argumentation itself to appeal to a point, is too arbitrary and in a way that is obvious.
I agree. I would actually close all communities that just canāt work. Latin America is a large and complex community that doesnāt even share the same language. Iām sorry, but this idea of community is hard to achieve because it requires a lot of work. Most of us are volunteers who donate a few hours a week, and Iām guessing most of us would prefer to use those available hours to actually contribute data to OSM. Itās just not practical to maintain a metacommunity. Letās focus on our own local communities, and if we need an opinion, weāll ask other local communities; we really canāt divide efforts unnecessarily. Maybe in time a reactivation of Latam is due.