It don't show to which message I responded anymore

Map-Peter · 2022-11-13T00:23:30.892Z

@SomeoneElse
There is no change if my reply is to the currently most recent in the thread.
Mostly I explicitly chose to reply to a specific post (99%)
and only rarely reply generally to the thread (1%).

It worked always for me in the past (up to and included October 29th) - as far as I remember.
That is why I think this a general issue / bug (since November 1st → I have looked this date up in my profile a minute ago).

I hope there is a fix for this issue.

Map-Peter · 2022-11-13T00:25:40.659Z

I really don’t get it - now it’s there:

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Why … ?
I have not done anything different.

waldyrious · 2022-11-13T11:42:27.103Z

I see two different outcomes depending on whether I choose to reply to a post (be it the last one or not) or to the thread, but in either case, the post/thread I’m responding to is shown:

recording

Map-Peter · 2022-11-13T15:27:12.770Z

test reply to #3 filler20filler

Map-Peter · 2022-11-13T15:27:34.036Z

test reply to #4 filler20filler

Map-Peter · 2022-11-13T15:27:51.438Z

test reply to #5 filler20filler

Map-Peter · 2022-11-13T15:28:21.634Z

test reply to #8 filler20filler

Map-Peter · 2022-11-13T15:32:22.592Z

I have thought about that in the first place - as written here before.

I don’t know why it almost all time works in this thread
but not in german-forum (for me since November 1st).

In #3 it has not worked.

msoosm · 2022-11-13T17:50:16.600Z

My first test (test reply to #1 filler20filler) wasn’t like my expection.
Perhaps because it was a reply on the last post, it looks like my 3rd test

Map-Peter · 2022-11-13T17:59:00.735Z

Here it don’t worked:

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And here it did worked:

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I can’t figure out why it only sometimes work and not always.
My procedure is always the same.

edit:
In this post it has not worked again.

waldyrious · 2022-11-16T13:00:36.600Z

Wait, are you talking about the actual reply once it’s published, not about the composing interface for the reply? Because I in the composing interface I can always see who I’m replying to (an individual post or the thread), though it appears on the left as seen in the screencast I posted above.

I suspect the actual post, once published, doesn’t show who you are replying to if it’s a response to the immediately preceding post.

EDIT: indeed, this was the case: I wrote this post as a reply to your last post, and saw that indication in the composing interface, but once published, it didn’t show up in the thread as being a reply to your post specifically.

nukeador · 2022-11-16T13:05:50.287Z

waldyrious:

I suspect the actual post, once published, doesn’t show who you are replying to if it’s a response to the immediately preceding post.

Yes, that’s the case. Also if you use the reply button at the bottom of the topic and you are just replying to the initial message.

SomeoneElse · 2022-11-16T14:13:31.670Z

nukeador:

Yes, that’s the case

Is it possible to change this behaviour? It is incredibly confusing, as can be seen by this thread.

nukeador · 2022-11-16T15:08:08.003Z

I’m not fully sure I understand what’s currently confusing.

Is the ask to enable the “in-reply-to” link in messages when the reply is to the message directly above? Is there a need for an expanding in-reply-to link when the message is just on your screen above?

SomeoneElse · 2022-11-16T17:37:59.144Z

nukeador:

Is the ask to enable the “in-reply-to” link in messages when the reply is to the message directly above?

That’s at least part of it, yes. More generally Discourse shouldn’t try and second-guess what I did and think I meant something else (replace characters I used with other characters, or remove part of my reply, for example).

Map-Peter · 2022-11-16T21:23:31.212Z

@nukeador
Yes, that’s it.
Why it can’t show this in every reply? When the user explicitly click on the “direct reply to a specific post” instead of click on “the very last reply at the bottom” to only reply to the thread in general.

Somehow the “behavior” of the forum concerning this issue has improved since I has started this thread. (Why that? Maybe you can tell me that. I don’t know.)
Now there are only some posts that are excluded. I think that should be fixed too.
Thank you in advance

nukeador · 2022-11-17T09:27:05.860Z

I don’t really know why it wasn’t working and it’s working on this one. From my understanding, you won’t get the “in-reply-to” only in the two situations I commented (reply is just below or you reply to the original message)

trigpoint · 2022-11-17T10:00:30.000Z

I use the forums in mailing list mode, reading them in Evolution which is an Outlook type application. I am sure many of us are faimliar with Outlook in our non-FOSS dayjobs.

Evolution and Outlook both display a tree like view where I can easily see who has responded to who.

This is a the view I see from the @tagging list.

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From the forums I just see a single indent, and not who has respended to who.
An example of the ‘same’ topic as in the tagging list.

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I have never been a fan of forums as they basically show everthing in chronological order. It would be nice if the forums would replicate this standard mailing list feature.

Phil (trigpoint)

nukeador · 2022-11-17T10:06:20.795Z

trigpoint:

I have never been a fan of forums as they basically show everthing in chronological order. It would be nice if the forums would replicate this standard mailing list feature.

Email threading used to work, but it seems there is a bug upstream being discussed

Discourse Meta – 21 Jul 22

Discourse email messages are incorrectly threaded

bug

Over at discuss python org we’re discussing the email side of Discourse. The biggest gripe the lack of threading. I did a bit of digging in the headers and it seems that: the Message-ID header is at least unique the Reply-To and References...

Reading time: 52 mins 🕑 Likes: 170 ❤

SomeoneElse · 2022-11-29T16:22:09.158Z

As another bit of feedback, my reply at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/including-the-uk-quiet-lanes-in-openstreetmap/6141/5 was actually to the first post of the thread, not the most recent one. As far as I can see, there is no way to tell that.

(I know this issue has been raised before, but a search doesn’t find it, hence this new thread).

Edit: This post has now been moved to below the previous topic. Thanks!