Is this a cycleway and a pavement, or a shared way with segregated=yes?

Seems that the actual point of discussion has been adequately covered, so I just wanted to chime in on this point.

Can we have a permanent moratorium on the use of this phrase and equivalents? In my short time within the OSM community, it’s already become quite clear to me that this phrase sees more use as a ‘thought-terminating cliché’ than it does as an actual legitimate point of constructive criticism.

I’m not even kidding — in threads that I’ve read over the past few months, just slightly over 50% of uses of this phrase that I’ve seen have not been justified at all.

Any time someone dares to offer an opinion on how something ‘should’ be tagged when there’s no (apparent) consensus, someone from the opposing camp will immediately swing in with an accusation of ‘tagging for the renderer’, regardless of whether it’s true or not.

I feel like this was a pretty egregious example (even though intended in good faith), as it was pretty obvious that mstrbrid was not in any way suggesting anything that could constitute tagging for the renderer.

Notwithstanding that ‘don’t tag for the renderer’ is an important principle to follow when actually mapping, it’s not a useful principle to proffer when having a constructive debate about an actual tagging choice (unless the person is obviously new and actively looking for advice).