Is it a good idea to show prominent empty Wikipedia and Wikidata fields in iD?

If wikipedia= or wikidata= are shown already then iD will show them for a given object.

You can also add these fields if needed.

Some time ago it was proposed (see also this) to show Wikidata field for lakes, also if not filled already. And if it gets added to lakes presumably next requests would arrive to do the same for other object types.

Do you think it is a good idea? I am leaning toward rejecting this idea but wanted to get feedback from OSM Community. Should iD always display these field for lakes (and some other objects)? Or only if filled already or mapper added them?

  • Wikipedia/Wikidata fields should be always shown, even if empty, at least for some objects
  • Wikipedia/Wikidata fields should be shown only if mapper added them or wikipedia/wikidata is tagged already
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EDIT: hopefully I have not run out of forum posting quota, but I am planning to avoid posting any “feedback request” threads for a while

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Lakes belong to the kind of data that is highly likely that a country’s hydrology department is providing as open data and that would make it highly likely it has already been imported into Wikidata. (High Value Datasets in the EU if not already mandated with the Bathing Water Directive) and as I have previously noted: build bridges between Wikidata and OSM, leverage our strengths - for example the Swedish Wikipedia instance, we have a template that automatically pulls the OSM geometry through kartographer if the OSM entity have the Wikidata tag, just one of many reasons to include it.

at the same time many tiny lakes in many areas do not have Wikidata of any kind

also, even large ones will not have them in many areas or may only have useless ones based on Cebuano bot-generated Wikipedia

(also, the question remains whether we want to have so prominent linking prompt)

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Would OWL Places (osm.wikidata.link) improve wiki tagging more effectively?

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AFAIK OWL Places is not properly working since months.

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seems to work? Changeset: 185905680 | OpenStreetMap

though in my opinion it is not really ready to be recommended to mappers in general - I opened

The region you used was matched in March. AFAIK you can’t match/update new regions, so either you can’t use it or you can use outdated data only. You can see how little activity there’s in recent months here: Changes OWL Places (e.g. not even one edit between June 17 and July 14)

The tool in the OSM wiki has status=broken since November: link

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for what it is worth https://github.com/EdwardBetts/osm-wikidata/commits/master/ shows some ongoing work

features attempts at blocking bots and dealing with Overpass dying

By the way, @Edward updated OWL today so it optionally adds OSM statements to Wikidata items, in addition to adding Wikidata tags to OSM elements like before.