Although I am against further fragmenting the =path
category, I could see a use for the =pathless
case for the most pathological cases where people still insist on using the path
value. And though I can see that highway=pathless
or path=pathless
sounds oxymoronic, to me e.g. the quite popular classification of =unclassified
appears equally paradoxical. I think @Minh_Nguyen 's point is on the nose:
The pathless
key also addresses the extremely wide use of the =path
-value, on the extreme end. As I have proposed ad nauseam, one possible solution would be to add more descriptive tags (I propose at least surface
, smoothness
and width
estimates) to categorize the dizzying variety of path
s. I can understand most of the criticism to this idea, but not all.
The point (to mirror @Minh_Nguyen, and address the current discussion) is that the lower we go in the hierarchy of the highway=
key, the less physical properties can be truth-preservingly inferred from the value of the key.
In Europe and North America (at least), most motorway
s are e.g. paved with asphalt
/concrete
. cycleway
and footway
are based on legal/suitability criteria, but their surface
value can no longer be inferred (perhaps only that it is probably not in the =ground
superset). Most people use path
s for the absolute pariah category of ways. Therefore next to no physical properties can be inferred from the value alone (except that it must be somehow visible, hence the need for the pathless
alternative).
As I pointed out on another thread, this is one argument to treat ways tagged with only a highway=path
as near inpassable routes. If the data consumers would adopt this interpretation and start to drop—or severly penalize—them in their routing, this might solve the problem of motivating people to add the descriptive keys. It is one thing to use a =1 m
wide path with =grass
or =clay
surface, and quite another to walk or cycle on a =2 m
wide path with a =compacted
or fine_gravel
surface of =good
smoothness.
Lastly,
this appears to me to be a bad idea. The pathless
case would have to depend on some kind of waymarker present on the ground (cairns, wooden poles or spray-painted rocks to mark the route).